How do I obtain the DNS servers on an ActionTec M1424WR v2?
NYCSteeler
Enthusiast - Level 1

I'm trying to establish Port Forwarding so that I can access my security cameras over the web and need the DNS Server info in order to do so. I went into the "My Network", then "Connection Settings" of the router, then selected "Full Status" to see all of the connections. When the screen showing the full details of all of the connections comes up, the only item that shows DNS Server info is WAN PPPoE. Is this what I'm supposed to use?

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Re: How do I obtain the DNS servers on an ActionTec M1424WR v2?
prisaz
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@NYCSteeler wrote:

prisaz - thanks for the info and the tip about port 80. Yes, I have an account with DynDNS - my security system is a DVR-type system with 8 cameras. The instructions for setting up a static ip from portforward.com state that I need to know the DNS server names so that I can enter them in the Internet protocol Properties box, but you say I don't?


I guess if it is asking for the DNS addresses for the staic IP, I assume you mean the DVR system for the cameras. When setting that system up to have a private static IP address, I would use the IP address of the router. 192.168.1.1 or what ever your router IP. That way if the dns changes on the public network, your equipment will still function. When pointing DNS to your router on your private network, the router will forward the DNS request. Others may have different preferences for this, but that is how I would do it.

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Re: How do I obtain the DNS servers on an ActionTec M1424WR v2?
prisaz
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@NYCSteeler wrote:

I'm trying to establish Port Forwarding so that I can access my security cameras over the web and need the DNS Server info in order to do so. I went into the "My Network", then "Connection Settings" of the router, then selected "Full Status" to see all of the connections. When the screen showing the full details of all of the connections comes up, the only item that shows DNS Server info is WAN PPPoE. Is this what I'm supposed to use?


Yes those are the DNS servers that your router is using, and it should also display the dynamic IP address assigned to your router. But that IP is going to change from time to time. See the information I included in the next paragraph. Also if your cameras use port 80, you will need to set them up do use a different port. Verizon blocks all port 80 inbound use for web servers.

You do not need the DNS server information. You would need to know your public IP address, which is dynamic. Check out dyndyns.org or no-ip.com. Both offer a free service that can give your network a host name and use one of their domain names.

Re: How do I obtain the DNS servers on an ActionTec M1424WR v2?
viafax999
Community Leader
Community Leader

@prisaz wrote:
 Also if your cameras use port 80, you will need to set them up do use a different port. Verizon blocks all port 80 inbound use for web servers.

Hi Prisaz

You say this with such authority that every time I go into my router to check to see if something has changed - It never has.

Port 80 is not blocked, at least not on my router, Is it possibly your router that's it's blocked or did you hear this somewhere?

Here is the test connection result that I just tried using the port forwarding rule HTTP80 192.168.1.11  TCPAny ->.80

Mar 27 13:04:02 2010 Inbound Traffic Accepted Traffic - Service  HTTP80: TCP 82.44.103.253:1162->192.168.1.11:80 on eth1

Similarly ports 443 and 21 are NOT blocked either.

I'm not suggesting you should use those ports but you shouldn't really be handing out inccorrect details.

It's obvious that port 80 isn't blocked since by deafult remote admin access, if enabled, goes to port 80.

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Re: How do I obtain the DNS servers on an ActionTec M1424WR v2?
prisaz
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@viafax999 wrote:

@prisaz wrote:
 Also if your cameras use port 80, you will need to set them up do use a different port. Verizon blocks all port 80 inbound use for web servers.

Hi Prisaz

You say this with such authority that every time I go into my router to check to see if something has changed - It never has.

Port 80 is not blocked, at least not on my router, Is it possibly your router that's it's blocked or did you hear this somewhere?

Here is the test connection result that I just tried using the port forwarding rule HTTP80 192.168.1.11  TCPAny ->.80

Mar 27 13:04:02 2010 Inbound Traffic Accepted Traffic - Service  HTTP80: TCP 82.44.103.253:1162->192.168.1.11:80 on eth1

Similarly ports 443 and 21 are NOT blocked either.

I'm not suggesting you should use those ports but you shouldn't really be handing out inccorrect details.

It's obvious that port 80 isn't blocked since by deafult remote admin access, if enabled, goes to port 80.


Just because remote admin access can be a enabled on the router does not mean it is not blocked at the public default gateway, which it the verizon co router.

Verizon has stated on many occasions that port 80 and 25 are blocked for residential service connections. So it is not "incorrect" . Also they say you should not run a server on residential service. Technically anything that accepts in coming connections can act as a server, so does everyone listen? No. It is done my area and perhaps not all areas. I know, I like the OP have a PPPOE connection. If you have HTTP or HTTPS ports that are not blocked, you are lucky. I give answers based on fact here at my location and as previously stated by Verizon. I am not a Verizon authority and do not work for them, but what I know is what I have said. If you have ports that are not blocked then great. Also if you keep the same IP then perhaps you are also lucky in that respect. But they are dynamic and can change at any time.

Also this is user help user forum and not everything may be correct for every body. But DNS is DNS and I have used both of the providers. So don't bash me because some peoples ports are not blocked.

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Re: How do I obtain the DNS servers on an ActionTec M1424WR v2?
Bob_Robertson
Specialist - Level 1

the ports 80 and 25 are not blocked in the firmware of your router... it is blocked on Verizon's end.... as priz said,.. if for some reason your is not.. you are one of the "lucky" few... as it should be blocked on ALL dynamic IP customers... dont make me dig up the infos on it...

in the TOS it states no servers what-so-ever....

never heard of Verizon actually doing anything to someone that has one... but it is there in english, in the TOS... dont make me go dig it up, either

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Re: How do I obtain the DNS servers on an ActionTec M1424WR v2?
viafax999
Community Leader
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@Bob_Robertson wrote:

the ports 80 and 25 are not blocked in the firmware of your router... it is blocked on Verizon's end.... as priz said,.. if for some reason your is not.. you are one of the "lucky" few... as it should be blocked on ALL dynamic IP customers... dont make me dig up the infos on it...

in the TOS it states no servers what-so-ever....

never heard of Verizon actually doing anything to someone that has one... but it is there in english, in the TOS... dont make me go dig it up, either


I'm not trying to instigate a slanging match.

I know exactly what Verizon says and exactly what the TOS says.  However that does not mean that I am going to tell some person that what they are trying to do cannot be done because VZ DOES block the ports when I know for certain that they DO NOT.

Any of you responders here can do the same as I did and set up the port forwarding rule and see what happens.  The quote above is obviously invalid as I posted what appeared in the security log and I'm sure all you guys can see that the incoming address was in the UK where as far as I know there is as yet no VZ presence however the user there could see perfectly well the test web page that I set up on my internal web server..

As a peer to peer support group it's not our task to enforce VZ's TOS, pointing out what the TOS says is OK but saying emphatically, without trying it ,that it does not work is not OK.

I happen to know that port 80 is not blocked because I work for an organization that uses port 80 for traffic (non HTTP) and it works perfectly well on a FIOS connection.  I only tried the web site connection to see if VZ were content scanning the incoming traffic and only blocking HTTP traffic on port 80.

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Re: How do I obtain the DNS servers on an ActionTec M1424WR v2?
Bob_Robertson
Specialist - Level 1

My bad... I didnt closely read your post... just scanned it.... and, as priz... I was just going off what I have read/been told for years.... Never attempted it myself, to find out it is not the port itsself that is blocked, but the HTTP protocol being blocked on the port, as you are stating....

WOOT... we learn new things everyday

Re: How do I obtain the DNS servers on an ActionTec M1424WR v2?
prisaz
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@viafax999 wrote:

@Bob_Robertson wrote:

the ports 80 and 25 are not blocked in the firmware of your router... it is blocked on Verizon's end.... as priz said,.. if for some reason your is not.. you are one of the "lucky" few... as it should be blocked on ALL dynamic IP customers... dont make me dig up the infos on it...

in the TOS it states no servers what-so-ever....

never heard of Verizon actually doing anything to someone that has one... but it is there in english, in the TOS... dont make me go dig it up, either


I'm not trying to instigate a slanging match.

I know exactly what Verizon says and exactly what the TOS says.  However that does not mean that I am going to tell some person that what they are trying to do cannot be done because VZ DOES block the ports when I know for certain that they DO NOT.

Any of you responders here can do the same as I did and set up the port forwarding rule and see what happens.  The quote above is obviously invalid as I posted what appeared in the security log and I'm sure all you guys can see that the incoming address was in the UK where as far as I know there is as yet no VZ presence however the user there could see perfectly well the test web page that I set up on my internal web server..

As a peer to peer support group it's not our task to enforce VZ's TOS, pointing out what the TOS says is OK but saying emphatically, without trying it ,that it does not work is not OK.

I happen to know that port 80 is not blocked because I work for an organization that uses port 80 for traffic (non HTTP) and it works perfectly well on a FIOS connection.  I only tried the web site connection to see if VZ were content scanning the incoming traffic and only blocking HTTP traffic on port 80.


OK for some it works for some it does not. But port 80 is blocked for some. So saying it is blocked is not incorrect. Saying it is blocked for everyone would be incorrect. I guess I should not have said ALL port 80 connectings. So what ever floats your boat.

Cool. If your port 80 is not blocked inbound then great. Ok for some it may work and some it may not. It was talked about at one time all ports would be unblocked. But that was talk. I know my port 80 is blocked, and others in the DC Metro area. I am in Maryland and a co-worker is in Virginia and for both of us port 80 is blocked inbound. So yes it is not worth an argument. I know what the TOS says and yes it is not my business to inforce what Verizon says. I am dead against restricting anything on a connection we pay for and a firm believer of net neutrality. It is service we pay for and should be able to use it as we see fit. If we run a business and choose to pay for a static IP then Verizon would get paid for it. If not, then we should be able to run inbound connections anyway we see fit, providing it does not cause problems for others. I have run SSH and other servers on my connection and they have run great. But not port 80. So I am happy for all that it works for. Try it, and if it works for you then great. No need to beat a dead horse. What may be right for some may be wrong for others.

The OP was asking how to obtain the DNS. So I guess not to be off topic we should just put and end to this bickering. I guess perhaps I should not have brought up port blocking because IT DOES HAPPEN. So I started the off topic statement. And I will not respond to this subject again in this thread. Everyone have a nice day.Smiley Wink

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Re: How do I obtain the DNS servers on an ActionTec M1424WR v2?
dslr595148
Community Leader
Community Leader

For what the DNS Servers are, I point to http://www.dslreports.com/faq/1591

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Re: How do I obtain the DNS servers on an ActionTec M1424WR v2?
NYCSteeler
Enthusiast - Level 1

prisaz - thanks for the info and the tip about port 80. Yes, I have an account with DynDNS - my security system is a DVR-type system with 8 cameras. The instructions for setting up a static ip from portforward.com state that I need to know the DNS server names so that I can enter them in the Internet protocol Properties box, but you say I don't?

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