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09-20-2011 02:07 PM
In the area of Old Church in Hanover county I live in we do not have high speed internet from any carrier. I telecommute and must use VPN to establish a secure connection to my company's network, so Satellite is not an option. The Mobile Broadband signal is so weak I've had to purchase a amplifier and antenna to boost the signal to make it bearable. There is a switch station just a mile down the road - why can't the equipment be put in there so we can get DSL?
09-20-2011 08:26 PM
Without going into technicalities on why Verizon doesn't have a DSLAM available in your CO (which there could be a myriad of reasons for) I'd suggest that you check out the T-1 shopper website which will provide information on broadband internet options available in your area...
And no, I'm not suggesting that you order a T-1...but simly to review what might be available...
09-21-2011 06:58 AM
Your other choice is to utilize a satellite based Internet provider (Starband,Wildblue,Hughesnet etc). While these solutions tend to be more expensive than DSL or Mobil Phone Based, they are usually available just about everywhere with a decent exposure to the southern Sky.
Your last choice is probably to get ISDN service, which would get you a pair of 64kbps channels. Unlike DSL or FiOS or Mobile Phone Service, ISDN is a tariffed service in most states. That means if you want to order it, generally the local telephone provider has to supply it. ISDN is likely to be as expensive or more expensive then Sat based, but it does come in over the telephone wires. You then need to find a ISP who supports ISDN connection on a pair of B channels. This tends to be an expensive solution, but generally if you landline telephone service, is available.
09-21-2011 12:41 PM
I can't use Satellite because I have to use VPN to connect remotely for my job. With Satellite my VPN connection would be slower than with dial-up. I know this because some I work with initally went with a Sat. ISP and had big, big issues with his VPN connection.
As for the ISDN it sounds interesting but I'd have to do a bit more research as to price. My company will let me expense only up to a certain amount. If it's more expensive than Sat. then it may not be a via option. Thanks for the info.
09-21-2011 12:44 PM
Thanks for the link.I'll check it out but the last time I casually looked into getting a T-1 it was over $1000.00 a month.. Don't think my employer will let me expense that
09-21-2011 04:47 PM
Well, yeah, I believe that I had said that I don't expect you to get a T-1......although their prices have gone down tremendously over the past decade. In my neck of the woods, I could get it for under $500...which is still way more than I could afford - not that I need one anyway.
ISDN might be a viable option...but do some research and let us know what you've come up with.
09-21-2011 06:22 PM - edited 09-21-2011 06:24 PM
Stupid question, but if Verizon refuses to even install a DSLAM in your nearby exchange or on a pole somewhere, is there by any chance your area is serviced by a Wireless ISP? I'm not taking about the Cell Phone carriers such as Verizon Wireless, Sprint or AT&T Mobility, but smaller companies who provide Internet wirelessly for in-home use. Some states such as Michigan have WIreless ISPs that service people, even if the speeds aren't the greatest at night or the latency, but is far better than dealing with Satellite, data-limited 3G/3.5G (LTE) plans, or forking out the cash to get T1s or ISDNs installed (if additional equipment must be brought in to make it work, since that is often on your dime). Yet again, if you do go the route of getting a T1 line or two installed, perhaps setting up a small neighborhood ISP and having your neighbors pay you for access to the T1s in their home might make things a bit more affordable. All that is needed for that in the big picture is of course, some money, and some networking knowledge.
09-29-2011 04:52 AM
I do have wireless mobile broadband, but the signal is very weak so high speed it ain't. For whatever reason the county (or someone) to date has not allowed towers in my area so what I'm getting is coming from over 7 miles away. It's tolerable with a Wilson antenna and amplifier, and there's still a things we can't do, but at least I don't drop my VPN connection multiple times a day. I have to use VPN because I work from home - otherwise I would have probably gone with a Satellite ISP. I did check into the T-1 and the cheapest price is still about 400 bucks. If it's split 3 ways its still 133 a month and I'm not sure I want to go that way.
It would be great is they put the equipment in the switch, and maybe I can get some of the neighbors to together to start campaigning for it.
09-29-2011 05:09 AM
This is what I found out about ISDN.. It was the precursor to DSL and while it's faster than dial-up its not without its issues. I copied this from Wikipedia. Verizon does offer it, but as a medium business solution - sounds expensive. Sounds like I'm stuck with limping along with what I have for a while.
09-29-2011 04:51 PM
In most locations ISDN is a tariffed service. That means if you order it, the local telco is pretty much required to provide it at the tariffed price. According to Verizon's web site, 'ISDN is available throughout the Verizon footprint'.
It may be part of Verizon's medium business solutions, but there is absolutely nothing that prevents a residential customer from ordering it except perhaps the price. I haven't priced ISDN-BRI (Basic Rate Interface, (2 B+1D service) for several years, but the last time I looked it was about $80/month plus taxes and fees, so it isn't cheap, and the installation charges could be significant.
Having said that, it does tend to be expensive. Part of that is you actually get two phone lines (a pair of 64kbps Bearer or B channels). The other bad news is traffic is usually metered. Go over your monthly allowance, and you get billed. In addition your ISP needs to support ISDN, not all do, and may charge considerably more for an ISDN connection than for a dial up connection.
OSPF is correct in that POTS equipment is NOT compatible with ISDN, you will need to get new telephones, or some sort of adapter.
D channel usage is fairly limited, because it provides the control information for two 64kbps channels. For most users, it is not useful for data transmission.
IN any case, my advice is you call Verizon and ask. You don't have to order after they tell you what it would cost! A T1, alias ISDN-PRI service, may be less expensive!
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