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CTerenzi
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Registered: ‎06-18-2012
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Re: A question about Verizon landlines

Don't get down on him, Armond, he was lied to.  He specifically asked for the old copper service, but what he got was a new service on a new network that is not as reliable in the event of an extended power outage.  The difference isn't apparent to anyone who's not a communications technician.  I find myself in the same situation as BD today.  When I set up FiOS at my new home two years ago, I specifically asked if I could have a "plain old telephone service" copper line installed for the telephone portion of my bundle, and was told that wouldn't be a problem.  Two years later, the promotional discounts are running out so I called to renew my contract and retain my discounts.  I got all the way through the process and was reasonably pleased with how things were going until the CSR noted that she didn't see anything in my account to indicate that I had a copper line to my home.  She had to call up the technical support team to verify, and their rep explained that what I have is an old style telephone service over the fiber network.

 

This is NOT what I asked for when I signed up.  I was very clear about what I wanted and was assured that was what I was getting.  Had I known that I would not have phone service on the old copper network, I would not have gotten phone service at all.  If at some point I wanted phone service that relies on the same feed as my Internet and television service, there are many competitors that offer it much cheaper.

 

Currently I am awaiting a phone call from a manager, which should happen some time before noon tomorrow.  What I learn from that call will determine whether Verizon retains me as a customer or loses me for all of their services while I explore legal options to recoup my costs.

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BeenDefrauded
Posts: 14
Registered: ‎06-15-2012
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Re: A question about Verizon landlines

CTerenzi,

 

I am finding many stories like this and it is disturbing.  Please keep us posted on your outcome.  I am also exploring legal options as there are clear violations of the Consumer Fraud Act and other statutes.  All I asked was for Verizon to straighten this out but so far they have refused to do that for a customer that has been fiercely loyal for many years.

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CTerenzi
Posts: 3
Registered: ‎06-18-2012

Re: A question about Verizon landlines

My wife is fit to be tied over this, and is ready to contact our lawyer about our options as well.  We'll see what explanation is offered tomorrow.

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ElizabethS
Posts: 2,416
Registered: ‎04-29-2009

Re: A question about Verizon landlines

We would like to remind users that the forum is not a legal venue.  The current discussion has strayed from its original topic and into the realm of customer service, which cannot be handled here.  Please contact Verizon directly with your Customer Service concerns.

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BeenDefrauded
Posts: 14
Registered: ‎06-15-2012
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Re: A question about Verizon landlines

Elizabeth,

 

I repeatedly contacted customer service and spent over 4 hours on the phone with them to no avail.  They agree that I was provided incorrect information and paid thousands for a service that I never received.  Nobody from Verizon is willing to accept accountability.  Is there a number that you would recommend that I call or someone that I should speak to?

 

Thank you

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ElizabethS
Posts: 2,416
Registered: ‎04-29-2009

Re: A question about Verizon landlines

Your issue has been escalated from the other thread you started. Please allow this one to return to its original purpose.

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armond_in_nj
Posts: 760
Registered: ‎04-10-2012

Re: A question about Verizon landlines

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CTerenzi wrote:

Don't get down on him, Armond, he was lied to.  He specifically asked for the old copper service, but what he got was a new service on a new network that is not as reliable in the event of an extended power outage.   When I set up FiOS at my new home two years ago, I specifically asked if I could have a "plain old telephone service" copper line installed for the telephone portion of my bundle, and was told that wouldn't be a problem.  


 

I am of course not "down on" anyone.  Rather I am trying to explain the FiOS standard setup as well as I can.  As mentioned earlier, this effort has met with little success.  This is somewhat puzzling, since information and explanations on FiOS technology are readily available on the Verizon web site and in consumer literature.

 

The original post in this thread asks if it is possible to have both a FiOS service and copper-wire based POTS at the same time in one residence.  I stated that this is indeed possible  because it is exactly the arrangement at my home.  Subsequently other writers (yourself included) stated that Verizon misled them.  It is not clear to me how these accusations help to explain to the original poster that having both services in one dwelling is simple (if I , a non-expert, can arrange it so can anyone else). 

 

I am not inclined to support one or the other side of a story until I have heard both, but in this case that will of course not be possible.  Neither am I interested in doing so in this instance.  Further, I don't immediately see how such a diversion provides helpful information on the original issue.   Perhaps this thread will eventually return to the subject matter at hand, rather than decay into something less.

 

Good viewing from "The Garden State"
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BeenDefrauded
Posts: 14
Registered: ‎06-15-2012
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Re: A question about Verizon landlines

 

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This is somewhat puzzling, since information and explanations on FiOS technology are readily available on the Verizon web site and in consumer literature.

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Armond,

 

This will be my last post on this thread as Elizabeth has asked to return to the main topic. 

 

If the information is "readily available" all over the place then why is everyone at Verizon giving me the incorrect information????  Shouldn't they easily be able to read from the literature posted all over the Verizon site and in consumer literature?  I have the information from various customer support reps as well as supervisors.

 

Perhaps you should be more puzzled by that fact.

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armond_in_nj
Posts: 760
Registered: ‎04-10-2012
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Re: A question about Verizon landlines

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BeenDefrauded wrote:

 

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If the information is "readily available" all over the place then why is everyone at Verizon giving me the incorrect information???? 


Heck, I'm as upset as the next guy (or gal).  Thank you for bringing this dastardly situation to light.  It has now become crystal clear that there is a plot within Verizon to deny access to extremely vital information to selected customers, yourself among them.   This is absolutely intolerable.  I hope we soon get to the bottom of this without resorting to drastic action.  BTW I wish you great success in your quest to do so.

 

Just in case: IRONY ALERT

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RRob
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎11-13-2012
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Re: A question about Verizon landlines

You may have been misled, but with no loss on your part you will not be able to successfully sue.

 

However, all FIOS subscribers most likely have actionable loss, but not due to service descriptions.

 

The 'old' copper wire outside plant supplied power to all the POTS subscriber equipment. FIOS supplies NO POWER.

 

M inimum FIOS equipment ( enough to provide 'POTS' ) consumes (perhaps -- measured; Verizon doesn't tell) 50 Watts, which is about 1.2 KWH per day or about $.25 per day where I live or about $8 per month. FIOS subscribers are nowhere informed that they need to pay this additional fee to whoever supplies power to you.

 

Consumers must have this information to compare services. $8/month for 10 million FIOS lines is a sizeable amount of money.

 

RRob

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