I recently switched to a 100/100 FIOS plan to Gigabit. While the ONT is in my garage, all of my coax and Ethernet connections are home-run to the basement. Under the 100/100 plan, the WAN connection to the ONT was delivered over my home-run coax line from the garage to the basement. A Verizon G1100 router in the basement took the MoCA WAN signal and bridged it to my Ethernet network connected to a separate switch. Of course, 100/100 is the maximum that Verizon will deliver over coax, even though the MoCA 2.0 protocol in the G1100 supports up to 500 mbps. Still not enough to support Gigabit service, but greater than 100/100. Unfortunately, I do not have Ethernet home-run from the ONT to the basement, so began to explore the use of bonded 2.0 MoCA adapters to service the Gigabit feed from the ONT’s Ethernet WAN port to my G1100 via the existing coax run. I purchased a pair of the Actiontec ECB6200 MoCA adapters, and figured the on-site Verizon techs could figure this out, since the network topology seemed pretty straightforward...at least, to me. Unfortunately, the techs were unfamiliar with this device, and were unable to establish a WAN link using them. Before giving up, and reverting back to my 100/100 coax-connected plan, I figured I’d give it a whirl, myself. I’m a tech professional, but was not previously familiar with the MoCA specs, so this required some exhaustive searches for information on the web, as well as some trial and error. After ER a few attempts, I managed to establish the Ethernet bridge using the Actiontec devices, but the link was unstable and would also impact the FIOS STBs that also connect via coax. Also, the Actiontec documentation is extremely sparse. Finally, after about a week of tooling around, I got everything working and am enjoying full Gigabit service. I therefore figured I’d share, so others with similar setups can benefit... Equipment: Actiontec ECB6200 Bonded MoCA 2.0 G1100 Verizon FIOS router MoCA 2.0 compliant splitter (2) MoCA 1.1 compliant A/V splitter 6-way to connect home-run coax to set-top boxes. Steps: Call Verizon to switch from coax WAN to Ethernet WAN port, on ONT. The G1100 uses MoCA frequency of 1000 MHz for WAN; 1150 MHz for LAN. The ECB6200 defaults to 1150 MHz, so must change to avoid network conflict with G1100 MoCA LAN frequency. To change the Actiontec MoCA frequency, directly connect an Ethernet cable between computer and ECB6200. Set Ethernet IP details on computer, as follows: IP Address: 192.168.144.10 Subnet: 255.255.255.0 Router: 192.168.144.1 Browse to 192.168.144.30 Access ECB6200 Configuration settings and change, as follows: RF Channel: 1400 RF Band: Band D Hi RF Switch: Hi Submit. Power cycle, and re-access to confirm that changes took effect. Repeat for other adapter. Use a MoCA 2.0 compliant splitter. Connect main coax line (garage termination, in my case) to “input” port of splitter. Connect coax from ONT to one output port. Connect ECB6200 “Coax In” to other output port. Connect Ethernet cable from ONT to ECB6200. At other end of main coax line (basement, in my case): Use another MoCA 2.0 compliant splitter, though not sure if this is necessary. Connect main coax line to splitter “input". Connect splitter to ECB6200 “Coax In” port. Connect splitter to A/V splitter in (this feeds my STBs). Connect Ethernet cable from ECB6200 to G1100 WAN port. Connect coax from G1100 to video splitter (creates MoCA 1.1 network bridge for STBs, which is still required). I hope this helps others who may be facing a similar challenge!

The more I thought about this, the more clever I thought it was. I'm a graphic-oriented person, so what I think you came up with looks like this: More or less anyway. You weren't sure if the second splitter needed to be MoCA 2.0 capable or not, but I'm fa...

I have not actually done it, but it should be doable. What the original poster did was reconfigure the frequency used by MoCA adapters to the D High Band to get them away from using the MoCA LAN frequencies they are set to by default. This was necessary in his case because he was also getting Verizon FiOS TV service and that gets the video on demand and guide info to the Verizon set-top box(es) from the coax from the router on the MoCA LAN frequencies. The theory is you should be able to have up to 16 MoCA devices on the coax (where the router is one device and each STB is another). If you have the G1100 router, FiOS TV service, and added another MoCA adapter (I assume we are still talking about the ECB6200) without reconfiguring it, it should join in with the router and STBs on the LAN. You should be able to connect a device or switch to the Ethernet side of the adapter and have Internet service. That would not pass Gigabit ethernet (if I recall correctly) because it is unbonded MoCA 2.0, which I think tops out around 400 Mbps. (Older equipment like the MI424WR router and older STBs were MoCA 1.1, which was even slower.) If your goal was to set up a Gbps LAN with MoCA adapters, you would probably have to reprogram a pair (or more) of the ECB6200s to the D High Band just so the frequencies they are using are away from the MoCA LAN the routers and STBs are using (at a slower rate) and the MoCA WAN (if you have coax service rather than Ethernet from the ONT). I don't have FiOS TV service, so I use a pair of these without any reprogramming necessary since there is no contention.

You can add up to 16 MoCA Adapters as I recall. Keep in mind that the Verizon router and any set-top boxes you have would be included in that number. These things are a lot more clever than I originally thought. From what I can tell, they set up a sort of internal network amongst themselves. One of the adapters (usually the first one turned on) acts as the arbiter. Since all adapters see all network traffic, the network operates much like a wireless LAN, but using RF over coax. The more adapters, the greater the chance for collisions (crosstalk, talk over). Since the adapters only listen to a specific frequency range (usually what Verizon uses for MoCA LAN unless you change it), you just have to make sure that the coax is all connected somewhere.

Though many of us do these type of setups, it is completely unsupported by Verizon. Most tech support isn’t going to know or even work with you with this type of setup. The newer FiOS TV One boxes and previous Quantum boxes won’t even go through activation with the Verizon router in place. Which is why it’s good to have a spare on hand in case you ever have to swap out a box or activate a new one.

I'm assuming your Internet service from the ONT is on Ethernet to your own router. Assuming that's correct, you just need something like one of the ECB6200s. You would plug the Ethernet cable to a LAN port on your router and connect the coax side into the coax running inside your house. The ECB6200 - as I understand it - ships configured to convert Ethernet to MoCA (coax) at the frequencies used by Verizon. This should make the programming guide and video-on-demand services work for the set-top boxes. I essentially had that setup for years, but in my case, I had a Motorola NIM100 MoCA bridge. Ethernet from the ONT to my router, to a switch, to the NIM100, to coax, to the STBs and DVR.

Oh ... and since you're using a Bonded adapter -- that uses two frequencies. for the pairing between the two adapters to get a full 1Gb of bandwidth (or close to it). So make sure both frequencies of the adapter at the source and the destination end that you're pairing are running an identical pair of frequencies -- neither of which is D1.

I see what you're trying to do ... but you need at least three MoCA bridges to make this work. The bridge you have at the end where your personal router is located is only going to listen to one frequency at a time and you actually need the STB on the LAN side of your router and the ONT on the WAN side. Here's what I would do (not knowing specifically the capability of the MoCA bridges you have but since you reference the ability to change frequencies, I believe this will work: 1. Connect ONT Ethernet to a MoCA bridge. Configure this bridge to run on C4-1000Mhz (if that's not possible, any of the D-bands except for D1). If you can configure a encryption password, set one to prevent the STB from trying to bind to it. Connect Coax output of bridge to source splitter. 2. Install a Low-Pass filter inline on the ONT Coax output (this will keep any incoming MoCA from the ONT from coming thru as well as prevent your signal leaking out). Connect this to the source splitter. 3. At destination end, connect STB to destination splitter 1. 4. Connect a second splitter to other output of destination splitter 2. 5. Connect first output of splitter 2 to a MoCA bridge. Configure this bridge for channel C4 with the same password you used for the other end. Connect the ethernet output of this bridge to the WAN interface of your personal router. 6. Connect the second output of splitter 2 to a second MoCA bridge. Configure this brdige for channel D1-1150Mhz with no password (this is what the STB will bind to for guide data, etc.). Connect the ethernet output of this bridge to a LAN interface on your personal router. Make sure all three bridges are set to NOT negotiate for a channel -- particularly the two running on C4 (or whatever channel you chose). Using C and D channels should keep the bridges from trying to interconnect incorrectly and is essentially what Verizon is doing with their router (their router essentially has two bridges inside -- once running on C4 and one running on D1).

For the newer GPON ONTs it is because the ONT’s MoCA port is 1.1 so 100/100 is the max on coax WAN. The older BPON ONTs would max out at 75/75 or 75/35 whether coax or ethernet.

Hello, Thanks a lot for this topic, very helpful and informative. I came up upon it when recently I got fios gigabit connection and they put the router in the garage with extender in the living room and I was trying to figure out a way to move the router in the living room. Here is the setup as they installed it: Garage: ONT --> Eth WAN of G1100 --> Coax of G1100 --> ...... --> Living room: Coax of WCB6200Q Here is the setup I'm trying: Garage: ONT --> Eth port of ECB6200 --> Coax of ECB6200 --> ....... --> Living room: Coax WAN of G1100 I tried with ECB6200 configured to 1000MHz and 1400MHz, but the router doesn't recognize it as a WAN connection. G1100 is supposed to support Moca 2.0 same as ECB6200. Any idea why such setup wouldn't work? I wanted to give it a shot before ordering another ECB6200 and doing it as exactly as described in this topic.

If you are using the ActionTec ECB6200 MoCA adapter, make sure the MoCA frequency (RF Channel) is set to 1150 MHz also known as Channel D1 (it’s the default on ActionTec MoCA adapters). 1150 MHz is also the default channel for Verizon FIOS routers and STBs (set top boxes or cable TV boxes) as well. For more information on frequencies, go here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_over_Coax_Alliance. You can find and change the MoCA frequency by connecting the MoCA device to your computer, and then changing your “default gateway” to 192.168.144.1. Directions on how to change your default gateway can be found here: helpdeskgeek.com/networking/upgrade-actiontec-ecb6200-firmware/. You change it in your TCP/IP settings. Then you will then navigate to 192.168.144.30 using a browser (put 192.168.144.30 in the URL bar). You will an Actiontec screen in which you can change settings. Use Configuration to change the frequency. Make sure you are using Coaxial Splitters and other hardware that are rated for over 1150MHz frequencies. MoCA won’t work with hardware that doesn’t support its frequency.

Thanks for this! I had to do the same when I used the pair of ECB6200's to put my LAN on the coax (not my WAN as you did). Although both ECB6200's showed the COAX light green, I basically lost internet until one of the awemsome folks on here pointed me to your post. I moved the ECB6200 traffic to 1400Mhz and it all just worked. Even with a VZ splitter only rated to 1000Mhz that was attached between my ONT cable modem and my router. For those who have already added their own router to the Verizon router and are looking to to extend their VZ internet via the coax and don't need more than 75-100M speed, read my entire post here . I'm bookmarking this in the nearly unavoidable eventuality of upgrading to gigabit service. Do you know if the older ActionTec M1424WR router VZ provides has the same limits that would require the WAN bridge as you have done to get the full 1G speeds? I kept it over the G111 because the newer modem didn't support my IP Phone in the way I needed. For any Windows 10 users that may not know how to "set their IP network settings" by hand before, check out this handy link for several options.

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I plan on implementing this solution as well since my situation is almost similar (unit 3 floors away from ONT box in basement) but I don't have an STB. So does that mean I don't need the second MOCA splitter? Also, do I need a second MOCA 2.0 adapter (in the unit) if the coax is receiving signal from the MOCA2.0 adapter in my basement?

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Looking at this figure, why not just connect coax from the ONT directly into the ECB6200? Isn’t there a coax input for the ECB6200? This way you don’t need the splitter acting as a combiner?