Re: Extreme Lag w/ Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn in Virginia
fenix1792
Enthusiast - Level 2

I've actually had no issues over the last 3-4 days.

I played for about 4 hours on Saturday and only dropped 1 packet the entire duration.  To me, the issue seems resolved wherever it was.

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Re: Extreme Lag w/ Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn in Virginia
Slapps
Newbie

Same. Haven't had any issues in the past few days.

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Re: Extreme Lag w/ Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn in Virginia
Slapps
Newbie

Scratch that. it's back. Having issues tonight (9/18). Had no issues earlier today, but started getting that customary lag at around 7pm EST. 


Tracing route to 199.91.189.20 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms Wireless_Broadband_Router.home [192.168.1.1]
2 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms L100.WASHDC-VFTTP-73.verizon-gni.net [72.83.250.1]
3 25 ms 8 ms 11 ms G0-6-4-6.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.212.144]
4 11 ms 8 ms 10 ms so-14-0-0-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.22.56]
5 14 ms 8 ms 9 ms 0.ae4.XL2.IAD8.ALTER.NET [152.63.8.125]
6 13 ms 9 ms 10 ms 0.xe-11-2-1.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET [152.63.42.2]
7 38 ms 39 ms 37 ms tinet-gw.customer.alter.net [152.179.50.30]
8 59 ms 58 ms 59 ms xe-1-0-0.mtl10.ip4.tinet.net [89.149.185.41]
9 55 ms 57 ms 59 ms ormuco-gw.ip4.tinet.net [216.221.156.110]
10 * 149 ms 148 ms 192.34.76.2
11 61 ms 57 ms 57 ms 199.91.189.234
12 60 ms 58 ms 58 ms 199.91.189.20

Having an issue at hop 10 obviously. Whois says that IP belongs to Ormuco. Same deal as before, others aren't experiencing this lag. I've been lag-free for the past few days, not sure what's changed.

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Re: Extreme Lag w/ Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn in Virginia
silentknight111

For me it seems it's directly related to the tinet-gw.customer.alter.net (152.179.50.30 in my tracert) router. I've done some research and FiOS users have been reporting issues with traffic directed through that router since January, at least. This router is in Ashburn, VA, and is controlled by Verizon Business, formerly Alter.net.

A quote from the info I've found: "These traceroutes were done from different locations to kinda pinpoint the issue, but you can clearly see that as long as it doesn't touch the tinet-gw.customer.alter.net router there is no latency present."

edit: sources http://forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-Internet/Routing-Latency-issues/td-p/525091

http://whois.net/ip-address-lookup/152.179.50.30

http://squareternal.com/SilentKnight/tracert-ffxiv.jpg

http://squareternal.com/SilentKnight/tracert-ffxiv2.jpg

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Re: Extreme Lag w/ Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn in Virginia
thetoolshed
Newbie

Lag went away last weekend, but has come back during this week.

Still pretty much the same exact lag.

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Re: Extreme Lag w/ Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn in Virginia
drksilenc
Newbie

same issue here with the tinet

Even though im out of pittsburgh.

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 3 ms 10 ms 4 ms L100.PITBPA-VFTTP-24.verizon-gni.net [96.236.155
.1]
3 6 ms 7 ms 7 ms G0-1-1-7.PITBPA-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.6
0.138]
4 33 ms 11 ms 14 ms xe-1-1-1-0.PHIL-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net [130.81.
209.18]
5 20 ms 19 ms 18 ms 0.xe-11-1-1.XL2.IAD8.ALTER.NET [152.63.5.249]
6 18 ms 19 ms 18 ms 0.xe-11-2-1.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET [152.63.42.2]
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 70 ms 71 ms * xe-1-0-0.mtl10.ip4.tinet.net [89.149.185.41]
9 70 ms 71 ms 71 ms ormuco-gw.ip4.tinet.net [216.221.156.110]
10 66 ms 67 ms 67 ms 192.34.76.2
11 68 ms 68 ms 67 ms 199.91.189.234
12 69 ms 70 ms 67 ms 199.91.189.20

Trace complete.

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Re: Extreme Lag w/ Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn in Virginia
YukiNeko
Enthusiast - Level 2

Continuing to have issues as well.

WinMTR Statistics

WinMTR statistics
Host%SentRecvBestAvrgWrstLast
Wireless_Broadband_Router.home01501500010
L100.BLTMMD-VFTTP-52.verizon-gni.net01501505696
G5-0-352.BLTMMD-LCR-03.verizon-gni.net01501505696
so-9-0-2-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net01501507181009
0.ae5.XL1.IAD8.ALTER.NET2411387810209
0.xe-10-1-1.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET01501508117410
tinet-gw.customer.alter.net1312611013153414
xe-1-0-0.mtl10.ip4.tinet.net015015024309227
ormuco-gw.ip4.tinet.net015015040435842
192.34.76.20150150404511244
199.91.189.234015015043446643
199.91.189.30015015042446244
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Re: Extreme Lag w/ Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn in Virginia
YukiNeko
Enthusiast - Level 2

Lag continues.  Below is the trace route taken around 6:50pm EDT on 10/11/2013.

Host%SentRecvBestAvrgWrstLast
Wireless_Broadband_Router.home05005000010
L100.BLTMMD-VFTTP-52.verizon-gni.net0500500571147
G5-0-352.BLTMMD-LCR-03.verizon-gni.net0500500571187
so-9-0-2-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net050050071817699
0.ae5.XL1.IAD8.ALTER.NET34574467104842
0.xe-10-1-1.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET050050071112312
tinet-gw.customer.alter.net542140115199717
xe-1-0-0.mtl10.ip4.tinet.net0500500253718437
ormuco-gw.ip4.tinet.net0500500424514843
192.34.76.20500500424614745
199.91.189.2341496495404517041
199.91.189.300500500404314741
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Re: Extreme Lag w/ Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn in Virginia
YukiNeko
Enthusiast - Level 2

Still having ALTER.NET issues...

Host%SentRecvBestAvrgWrstLast
Wireless_Broadband_Router.home0100010000010
L100.BLTMMD-VFTTP-52.verizon-gni.net01000100057357
G0-7-2-4.BLTMMD-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net010001000592510
so-1-1-0-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net199699571210010
0.ae5.XL1.IAD8.ALTER.NET78047550155815
0.xe-8-1-0.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET19969957117710
tinet-gw.customer.alter.net29449308116512
xe-4-0-0.mtl10.ip4.tinet.net010001000253614393
ormuco-gw.ip4.tinet.net199699537414939
192.34.76.21996995374310540
199.91.189.234199699542456747
199.91.189.30199699537415043

Other players have posted traceroutes showing their traffic meeting up on tinet.net before reaching SE's network.  C'mon Verizon, fix your stuff!

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Re: Extreme Lag w/ Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn in Virginia
Zamotic
Enthusiast - Level 2

Bringing this topic back to the top as it's a prevalent problem since around Mid-December:

Tracing route to 199.91.189.57 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms Wireless_Broadband_Router.home [192.168.1.1]
2 116 ms 7 ms 8 ms L100.NYCMNY-VFTTP-116.verizon-gni.net [173.68.109.1]
3 12 ms 12 ms 9 ms G1-15-0-4.NYCMNY-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net [100.41.192.118]
4 48 ms 6 ms 7 ms ae5-0.NY325-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.163.208]
5 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms 0.xe-4-0-0.BR3.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.23.173]
6 26 ms 27 ms 27 ms te-7-3-0.edge2.NewYork2.level3.net [4.68.111.137]
7 34 ms 32 ms 32 ms vlan52.ebr2.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.69.138.254]
8 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms 4.69.201.37
9 33 ms 32 ms 32 ms ae-5-5.car1.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.5]
10 141 ms 211 ms 212 ms ae-11-11.car2.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.1]

11 37 ms 34 ms 35 ms ORMUCO-COMM.car2.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.59.178.74]
12 37 ms 37 ms 81 ms 192.34.76.10
13 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms 199.91.189.242
14 35 ms 31 ms 32 ms 199.91.189.57

Trace complete.

That 10th hop varies if it comes back at all.

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