Re: Verizon throttling youtube?
skyliner34
Contributor - Level 2

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.2.9200]
(c) 2012 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\windows\system32>tracert youtube.com

Tracing route to youtube.com [74.125.228.33]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    17 ms    62 ms    26 ms 
  2     5 ms     3 ms     6 ms 
  3    10 ms    10 ms    11 ms  L100.WASHDC-VFTTP-116.verizon-gni.net []
  4    13 ms    24 ms    18 ms  G0-13-2-0.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.
212.136]
  5    34 ms    29 ms    13 ms  so-3-1-0-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.1
51.232]
  6    12 ms    18 ms    11 ms  0.xe-3-0-3.XL4.IAD8.ALTER.NET [152.63.3.53]
  7    25 ms    19 ms    16 ms  TenGigE0-5-0-1.GW7.IAD8.ALTER.NET [152.63.37.162
]
  8    31 ms    44 ms    43 ms  google-gw.customer.alter.net [152.179.50.106]
  9    42 ms    23 ms    45 ms  216.239.46.250
 10    15 ms    25 ms    18 ms  72.14.238.175
 11    19 ms    12 ms    13 ms  iad23s06-in-f1.1e100.net [74.125.228.33]

Trace complete.

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Re: Verizon throttling youtube?
erluna
Newbie

Maybe we should all contact our local news outlets. This is false advertising. I can't even stream 240p.

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Re: Verizon throttling youtube?
prisaz
Legend

Thanks skyliner34

All looks normal there. You seem yo be very close, just as I. I have been watching some content, and can't see any issues. This has me stumped.

Do you have and URL links to content that you can provide. I just watched a few 1080p trailers and they were great.

What type of hardware from Verizon do you have? Speed, ONT Model, Router Model and Revision?

Since not eveyone is seeing the issues, I am trying to be helpful and perhaps find some common ground. Perhaps some users are in areas where there are bottle necks on the network. Like I have just upgrade to Quantum 150/65 at my HUB with a new GPON ONT, ALL my neibors are still BPON with slower speeds. I suspect if more people started upgrading, perhaps the people with older hardware may see issues. I am just trying to be helpfull and grasping at straws.

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Re: Verizon throttling youtube?
prisaz
Legend

@erluna wrote:

Maybe we should all contact our local news outlets. This is false advertising. I can't even stream 240p.


I did post a link to this thread to some Verizon folks, and perhaps I can send an Email or two. If it is an ongoing issue, someone should find out the cause and say it will or will not be fixed for this reason or another.

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Re: Is it me or youtube being slow at times?
mwiegand
Newbie

@shadezero wrote:

ok found a work around for this 

go to http://www.proxfree.com/youtube-proxy.php

and paste the youtube url and finally the video streams



proxfree worked! Thank you! Not a single buffering problem using that. Works like a charm. What does that mean as far as troubleshooting? Proves it's not my computer for one thing. Any way to have my comp auto-use whatever it is that proxfree is doing? So I don't have to go to that site first? Crazy that I'm in TX, and using the dropbox thing that says it's in France, and it's faster than going direct to youtube. crazy.

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Re: Is it me or youtube being slow at times?
Tecmaster
Enthusiast - Level 2

I'm in New Jersey and it seems to be a problem specifically with servers on the 208.117.251.0/24 subnet (in particular 208.117.251.18 and 208.117.251.19). For the last couple of days I was able to add a firewall rule blocking that subnet and youtube would redirect me to other servers which worked with the performance that you would expect. Unfortunately that's stopped working now as youtube is just dying instead of redirecting me to good servers.

Looking at my traffic the connections to the web servers are all working fine, but once it makes the request:

GET /videoplayback?algorithm=throttle-factor&burst=40&clen=2060388&cp=U0hVTlNTUV9FUkNONV9LTVVIOnlRZUVQNW1QN0J3&cpn=h45F81YxSNtRSIxO&expire=1369383708&factor=1.25&fexp=912301%2C901439%2C906436%2C932402%2C916625%2C902001%2C922912%2C906096%2C924605%2C901208%2C929123%2C929915%2C929906%2C925714%2C929119%2C931202%2C932802%2C928017%2C912518%2C911416%2C906906%2C904476%2C930807%2C919373%2C906836%2C933701%2C900816%2C926403%2C912711%2C929606%2C910075&gir=yes&id=e0ddd809c30b105f&ip=71.187.56.151&ipbits=8&itag=134&keepalive=yes&key=yt1&lmt=1368398582840389&ms=au&mt=1369358367&mv=m&newshard=yes&nh=EAQ&range=0-905215&ratebypass=yes&signature=B5667C754768AE90012155122B2E293E873407FE.B621091667161F99A6098B864E1CFE0D78816775&source=youtube&sparams=algorithm%2Cburst%2Cclen%2Ccp%2Cfactor%2Cgir%2Cid%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Clmt%2Csource%2Cupn%2Cexpire&sver=3&upn=tuVtSdEGYi8

To the server on the 208.117.251.0/24 subnet, the server starts sending packets progressively slower until the

server totally stops sending data. 

Until today I could just block these servers with a firewall rule and the client would use others on a completely different network, but now it will just error out and I'm forced to use these servers which aren't working with verizion's network at all.

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Re: Verizon throttling youtube?
Mikewnyc
Enthusiast - Level 2

here are my results.

youtube seems to be working slightly better tonight than it was the past few days, but no where near as fast as it used to be.

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]

Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\M>tracert youtube.com

Tracing route to youtube.com [173.194.68.93]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  IP Removed [NYC]

  2    15 ms     8 ms     9 ms  L100.NYCMNY-VFTTP-147.verizon-gni.net [96.250.196.1]

  3    11 ms    11 ms    19 ms  G0-14-3-7.NYCMNY-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.190.180]

  4    16 ms     9 ms     7 ms  so-6-1-0-0.NY5030-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net [130.81.151.224]

  5    37 ms    15 ms     9 ms  0.so-0-0-0.XT2.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.17.21]

  6    17 ms    23 ms    16 ms  TenGigE0-5-4-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.18.206]

  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.

  8    23 ms     *       17 ms  72.14.238.232

  9    13 ms    16 ms     9 ms  72.14.236.206

 10    25 ms     *       25 ms  72.14.239.93

 11    30 ms     *        *     66.249.95.231

 12    32 ms    36 ms    31 ms  216.239.49.253

 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.

 14    32 ms    31 ms    24 ms  qa-in-f93.1e100.net [173.194.68.93]

Trace complete.

Do you know what it all means?

Thanks

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Re: Is it me or youtube being slow at times?
Tecmaster
Enthusiast - Level 2

One fix that I've found also works is to use a DNS proxy to route all traffic from *.c.youtube.com to either 208.117.240.56 or an IP address in the range 64.15.124.143 to 64.15.124.167 thereby bypassing the bad servers on the 208.117.251.0/24 subnet.

 

A little complicated for the average user but if you have any clue what I'm talking about it's worth a shot and is working great for me.

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Re: Is it me or youtube being slow at times?
PhysX
Newbie

I've been dealing with this for the past week. Now it got to the point where youtube doesnt even stream.

C:\Windows\system32>tracert youtube.com

Tracing route to youtube.com [74.125.226.198]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     3 ms     2 ms     2 ms  Wireless_Broadband_Router.home []
  2     4 ms     4 ms     4 ms  L100.NYCMNY-VFTTP-199.verizon-gni.net [71.190.18
8.1]
  3    10 ms    10 ms     7 ms  G0-10-4-6.PHLAPA-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.
189.112]
  4     9 ms     9 ms     8 ms  130.81.199.10
  5     9 ms     8 ms     9 ms  0.xe-2-0-3.XT1.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.17]
  6    12 ms    11 ms    10 ms  TenGigE0-4-4-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.18.202
]
  7     *       14 ms     *     google-gw.customer.alter.net [152.179.72.62]
  8    23 ms     9 ms    14 ms  209.85.255.68
  9    10 ms     9 ms     8 ms  72.14.239.250
 10    10 ms     8 ms     9 ms  lga15s28-in-f6.1e100.net [74.125.226.198]

Trace complete.

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Re: Is it me or youtube being slow at times?
givemebreak1
Newbie

We have been having this issue for months, I even called and got no help.

It is 100% a Verizon issue but 2 houses down from me can stream fine.

It happens with every device in this house, from multiple laptops, desktops, phones on wifi, ipods on wife, xboxs, etc

NOTHING will buffer you tube.

Someone needs to figure this out at verizon, I never had an issue until about 2 months or so ago.

Very frustrating.

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

tracert youtube.com

Tracing route to youtube.com [74.125.226.193]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  Wireless_Broadband_Router.home [192.168.1.1]
  2     7 ms     6 ms     7 ms  L100.PRVDRI-VFTTP-31.verizon-gni.net [74.103.206
.1]
  3    12 ms    11 ms    11 ms  G0-6-3-1.PRVDRI-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net [130.81.2
13.76]
  4    39 ms    13 ms    13 ms  ae4-0.NY5030-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.209
.54]
  5    15 ms    13 ms    13 ms  0.xe-6-1-1.XT1.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.57]
  6    18 ms    19 ms    19 ms  TenGigE0-4-0-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.21.61]

  7    14 ms    13 ms    13 ms  google-gw.customer.alter.net [152.179.72.62]
  8     *       14 ms    17 ms  209.85.255.68
  9     *        *       19 ms  72.14.239.250
 10    17 ms    15 ms    17 ms  lga15s28-in-f1.1e100.net [74.125.226.193]

Trace complete.

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