Re: Verizon throttling youtube?
prisaz
Legend

@Mikewnyc wrote:

here are my results.

youtube seems to be working slightly better tonight than it was the past few days, but no where near as fast as it used to be.

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]

Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\M>tracert youtube.com

Tracing route to youtube.com [173.194.68.93]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  IP Removed [NYC]

  2    15 ms     8 ms     9 ms  L100.NYCMNY-VFTTP-147.verizon-gni.net [96.250.196.1]

  3    11 ms    11 ms    19 ms  G0-14-3-7.NYCMNY-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.190.180]

  4    16 ms     9 ms     7 ms  so-6-1-0-0.NY5030-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net [130.81.151.224]

  5    37 ms    15 ms     9 ms  0.so-0-0-0.XT2.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.17.21]

  6    17 ms    23 ms    16 ms  TenGigE0-5-4-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.18.206]

  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.

  8    23 ms     *       17 ms  72.14.238.232

  9    13 ms    16 ms     9 ms  72.14.236.206

 10    25 ms     *       25 ms  72.14.239.93

 11    30 ms     *        *     66.249.95.231

 12    32 ms    36 ms    31 ms  216.239.49.253

 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.

 14    32 ms    31 ms    24 ms  qa-in-f93.1e100.net [173.194.68.93]

Trace complete.

Do you know what it all means?

Thanks


Yes it means that the issues are on google's youtube networ where the timeouts and other issues are occuring. Perhaps Youtube is throttling trafic to the Verizon network alter.net. Seems that way to me. Or the TenGigE is chocking it down on the Verizon side based on what bandwidth youtube / google pays for. It seems more likely that it is YouTube

since others get good speeds when going through a proxy that masks where the trafic is coming from. Rather bites for Net Neutrality! The Feds can seem to regulate themselves, and sure can't regulate the Internet and ISPs. Regardless of how many bills or rules the FCC passes. Yea it sucks!

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Re: Is it me or youtube being slow at times?
prisaz
Legend

tecmaster

When i trace my route to 208.117.251.18, it sends me through UUNET (Verizon Business) through sprintlink directly to YouTube. Why through Sprint? Youtube Smoke and mirrors? Or OSPF routing at Verizon or what ever they are using is opening the shortest but worst path to Youtube for some users. That is why if you use a proxy, the other path may not be the quickest route (fewest hope) but it may be the fastest one. I clearly see this more of a routing issue, and the bandwith problem is that the routes are being opened through bottle necks. IMHO

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Re: Is it me or youtube being slow at times?
DwindleFlip1
Enthusiast - Level 2

Youtube doesnt work here either.  It hasnt been working all week.

It plays fine through proxies as many others have noted. 

Fios sucks. 

How about some help here? A mention, anything. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON? 

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Re: Is it me or youtube being slow at times?
prisaz
Legend

@DwindleFlip wrote:

Youtube doesnt work here either.  It hasnt been working all week.

It plays fine through proxies as many others have noted. 

Fios sucks. 

How about some help here? A mention, anything. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON? 


Sucks for you, fine for me. I have ask for Verizon to chime in here, but still waiting. Perhaps after the long restful weekend?

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Re: Is it me or youtube being slow at times?
toby718
Newbie

I can't view any youtube videos but I can download steam games in 5minutes....

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Re: Is it me or youtube being slow at times?
Tecmaster
Enthusiast - Level 2

Sounds about right prisaz, sounds like we just have to wait for Verizon/Youtube to fix the routing problems. In the meantime the DNS proxy is still working fairly well for me.

Re: Is it me or youtube being slow at times?
FPSAzn
Newbie

How did you set up a DNS proxy? I'm getting desperate, blocking a ton of IPs, nope. Right now videos at 240p still need time to buffer, it's getting ridiculous. I'm getting 25/25, everything else is going smoothly, it's just **bleep** youtube that doesn't work.

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Re: Is it me or youtube being slow at times?
liquidbeef
Newbie

I'd like to say this has been happening to me for nearly a year now, and judging by what I see in these (and similar) forums it appears we aren't any closer than we were a year ago to getting a fix. Just a bunch of pointing fingers and nobody taking initiative.

It's kind of sad to be dropping Fios over a slow connection on a single website, but that's the only reason I've been able to tolerate it for so long.

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Youtube problems due to packet loss, google-gw.customer.alter.net (traceroute included)
MoltenIce
Newbie

I have a 25/5 plan which Speedtest.net confirms (24.51/4.79) but I have problems loading youtube videos, even when they are low quality and only 10-20 megabytes. With a 3 megabyte download speed I would expect videos to load in seconds, if not instantaneously. I do not think this is a youtube/google problem because at other people's houses, who use comcast and optimum, I do not have a problem buffering youtube videos under their internet connections.

I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and here is the result of running "mtr youtube.com"

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                                       Packets               Pings
 Host                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. Wireless_Broadband_Router.home    0.0%  1139    0.4   0.4   0.3   0.8   0.1
 2. L100.NWRKNJ-VFTTP-105.verizon-gn  0.0%  1139    5.6  16.0   5.6 261.7  23.4
 3. G11-2-1605.NWRKNJ-LCR-06.verizon  0.0%  1139   13.4  15.0   5.6 252.0  23.1
 4. so-6-2-0-0.NWRK-BB-RTR2.verizon-  0.0%  1139   12.9  19.9   6.4 258.6  28.0
 5. 0.so-4-0-1.XT2.NYC4.ALTER.NET     0.1%  1139   12.5  25.2   7.3 248.2  30.1
 6. TenGigE0-7-0-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NE  0.0%  1139   11.1  23.6   9.0 261.7  24.8
    TenGigE0-5-4-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET
    TenGigE0-5-0-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET
    TenGigE0-7-2-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET
    TenGigE0-5-2-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET
    TenGigE0-7-1-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET
    TenGigE0-5-1-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET
    TenGigE0-7-4-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET
 7. google-gw.customer.alter.net     66.2%  1139    8.8  20.9   8.3 227.0  27.2
 8. 72.14.238.232                     3.9%  1139   19.2  27.0  10.2 236.4  29.8
 9. 72.14.239.252                     3.0%  1138   15.2  18.0   8.4 172.1  21.7
10. lga15s29-in-f1.1e100.net          3.3%  1138   12.9  18.3   7.7 266.0  23.7

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It seems that the 7th hop, google-gw.customer.alter.net, has serious packet loss and I am unsure of what to do about it.

 

I am on a wired connection.

 

Any help would be appreciated, whether it be proxies or alternate DNS servers.

 

Thanks!

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Re: Is it me or youtube being slow at times?
delta611
Newbie

This has been soo bad I will end up in a contract dispute with Verizon....Since I cant watch you tubes I have tried to D/L them....One Mandolin Lesson for my wife, 35 meg, been going on two hours..Did I mention I have 75/35.....Somebody is throttling somewhere...Back to brighthouse if htis continues much longer....

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