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Re: Youtube buffering

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@JKBRENT wrote:

I have been having this problem ever since switching to Verizon several months ago. It is only with YouTube and no other site with video. Not news sites or other entertainment media sites. There is just some kinf of issue with Verizon and YouTube. And, I don't believe it is a technical issue either...lol


It can't be anything other than a technical issue to be honest unless it is genuinely some sort of dispute between Verizon and Google causing this issue which is unlikely since Google already pays Verizon for connectivity to their network. I've mentioned this many times before. If you have many people on very fast connections (FiOS) and you send all of your traffic down a single common pipe (most residential providers do), all of the customers use a single set of DNS Servers (most ISPs do this), and you are all feeding off of a single set of cache servers, you will have massive slow-downs at night. Very few providers have their own caching servers on network for YouTube and instead have to rely on whatever Google themselves can pump out. Read the Google forums sometimes and you'll find the speed issues prop up for ISPs that offer higher than usual speeds.

 

Yet again, it could also just be the sad state that many networks are found in within this country.

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Re: Youtube buffering

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Im having the same issue with youtube. The freezing got so bad I thought it was an issue with my pc. But all devices in the house have the same issue.  When I go to my friends house ( they have cablevision ) I can watch videos there just fine on youtube.  I havent notice the same issue with hulu though...  

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Re: Youtube buffering

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This only happens on Verizon FIOS.  High performance machine / 25MB+.  I'm convinced its either the router or they throttle youtube as it competes with the TV.

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Re: Youtube buffering

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Here are three four traces I took last night from my FiOS connection in Chesapeake, VA, wherein YouTube was almost at a standstill. Unusable, even with 280p video and the lowest quality settings:

 

Last login: Fri Feb 15 16:46:56 on ttys000

traceroute to tc.v18.cache1.c.youtube.com (208.117.251.17), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets

 1  wireless_broadband_router (192.168.1.1)  1.644 ms  3.040 ms  1.482 ms

 2  74.98.181.1 (74.98.181.1)  5.875 ms  5.414 ms  8.708 ms

 3  g0-2-3-5.nrflva-lcr-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.129.206)  4.617 ms  4.164 ms  4.404 ms

 4  xe-0-1-4-0.phil-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.209.52)  14.814 ms  39.197 ms  14.794 ms

 5  0.xe-7-3-0.br1.iad8.alter.net (152.63.3.125)  36.296 ms  20.121 ms  20.072 ms

 6  te9-2-0d0.cir1.ashburn-va.us.xo.net (206.111.0.201)  20.708 ms  20.231 ms  23.264 ms

 7  216.156.8.189.ptr.us.xo.net (216.156.8.189)  73.440 ms  20.158 ms  22.990 ms

 8  209.48.42.86 (209.48.42.86)  25.036 ms  20.810 ms  22.542 ms

 9  208.117.251.17 (208.117.251.17)  20.799 ms  20.460 ms  24.253 ms

 

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new-host:~ jamesmowery$ traceroute 3Dtc.v11.cache1.c.youtube.com

traceroute to 3dtc.v11.cache1.c.youtube.com (199.101.28.20), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets

 1  wireless_broadband_router (192.168.1.1)  1.224 ms  0.834 ms  0.822 ms

 2  74.98.181.1 (74.98.181.1)  7.132 ms  8.130 ms  2.966 ms

 3  g0-2-3-5.nrflva-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.129.174)  3.480 ms  3.185 ms  4.662 ms

 4  xe-19-0-6-0.res-bb-rtr1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.209.44)  29.615 ms  17.720 ms  19.579 ms

 5  0.xe-9-0-0.br2.iad8.alter.net (152.63.38.133)  18.526 ms  18.376 ms  19.243 ms

 6  te4-4-10g.ar6.dca3.gblx.net (208.178.58.121)  20.536 ms  58.280 ms  18.592 ms

 7  po2-20g.ar3.dca3.gblx.net (67.16.133.89)  37.718 ms  18.742 ms  18.592 ms

 8  nominum.gi9-7.ar3.dca3.gblx.net (64.212.109.90)  18.781 ms  18.693 ms  18.534 ms

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new-host:~ jamesmowery$ 

 

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Last login: Fri Feb 15 18:29:32 on ttys001

new-host:~ jamesmowery$ traceroute 3Dtc.v16.cache1.c.youtube.com

traceroute to 3dtc.v16.cache1.c.youtube.com (199.101.28.20), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets

 1  wireless_broadband_router (192.168.1.1)  1.076 ms  0.892 ms  0.821 ms

 2  74.98.181.1 (74.98.181.1)  3.471 ms  3.212 ms  5.396 ms

 3  g0-2-3-5.nrflva-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.129.174)  4.675 ms  7.729 ms  3.780 ms

 4  xe-19-0-6-0.res-bb-rtr1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.209.44)  20.107 ms  17.814 ms  17.598 ms

 5  0.xe-9-0-0.br2.iad8.alter.net (152.63.38.133)  19.189 ms  19.464 ms  18.310 ms

 6  te4-4-10g.ar6.dca3.gblx.net (208.178.58.121)  22.154 ms  19.525 ms  18.408 ms

 7  po2-20g.ar3.dca3.gblx.net (67.16.133.89)  18.913 ms  19.809 ms  19.782 ms

 8  nominum.gi9-7.ar3.dca3.gblx.net (64.212.109.90)  20.169 ms  18.417 ms  19.198 ms

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new-host:~ jamesmowery$ 

 

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Last login: Fri Feb 15 18:41:19 on ttys001

new-host:~ jamesmowery$ traceroute 3Dtc.v16.cache3.c.youtube.com

traceroute to 3dtc.v16.cache3.c.youtube.com (199.101.28.20), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets

 1  wireless_broadband_router (192.168.1.1)  1.349 ms  1.354 ms  0.806 ms

 2  74.98.181.1 (74.98.181.1)  3.007 ms  3.155 ms  7.939 ms

 3  g0-2-3-5.nrflva-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.129.174)  4.166 ms  3.756 ms  3.092 ms

 4  xe-19-0-6-0.res-bb-rtr1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.209.44)  17.832 ms  20.472 ms *

 5  0.xe-9-0-0.br2.iad8.alter.net (152.63.38.133)  19.339 ms  18.202 ms  19.224 ms

 6  te4-4-10g.ar6.dca3.gblx.net (208.178.58.121)  18.809 ms  24.569 ms  20.011 ms

 7  po2-20g.ar3.dca3.gblx.net (67.16.133.89)  19.542 ms  18.765 ms  19.206 ms

 8  nominum.gi9-7.ar3.dca3.gblx.net (64.212.109.90)  21.012 ms  18.537 ms  21.461 ms

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Now here are two traces from my parent's house in Windsor, VA, with Charter Communications. There's no issue at all with 1080p video:

 

Last login: Sat Feb 16 23:07:48 on ttys000
Jamess-MacBook-Pro:~ jamesmowery$ traceroute tc.v16.cache1.c.youtube.com
traceroute to tc.v16.cache1.c.youtube.com (208.117.248.9), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 1.567 ms 1.144 ms 1.942 ms
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3 acr02sfflva-tge-4-1.sffl.va.charter.com (96.34.77.29) 12.312 ms 10.440 ms 11.176 ms
4 96-34-93-176.static.unas.la.charter.com (96.34.93.176) 10.932 ms 10.551 ms 16.425 ms
5 dtr02sfflva-tge-0-1-0-5.sffl.va.charter.com (96.34.93.171) 11.484 ms 10.848 ms 10.320 ms
6 dca-edge-22.inet.qwest.net (72.165.200.233) 58.841 ms
dca-edge-22.inet.qwest.net (65.123.21.117) 15.458 ms
dca-edge-22.inet.qwest.net (72.165.200.233) 15.039 ms
7 dcp-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.251.110) 18.656 ms 17.196 ms 17.568 ms
8 63.146.26.18 (63.146.26.18) 18.831 ms 19.345 ms 16.633 ms
9 xe-3-3-0.mia10.ip4.tinet.net (141.136.109.25) 45.583 ms 71.227 ms 46.208 ms
10 google-gw.ip4.tinet.net (77.67.71.114) 45.101 ms 45.564 ms 45.558 ms
11 208.117.248.9 (208.117.248.9) 44.207 ms 55.881 ms 45.867 ms
Jamess-MacBook-Pro:~ jamesmowery$

 

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Last login: Fri Feb 15 19:46:54 on ttys003
Jamess-MacBook-Pro:~ jamesmowery$ traceroute tc.v13.cache1.c.youtube.com
traceroute to tc.v13.cache1.c.youtube.com (208.117.248.16), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 2.198 ms 2.729 ms 1.267 ms
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3 acr02sfflva-tge-4-1.sffl.va.charter.com (96.34.77.29) 16.272 ms 10.779 ms 10.058 ms
4 96-34-93-176.static.unas.la.charter.com (96.34.93.176) 10.588 ms 10.809 ms 11.997 ms
5 dtr02sfflva-tge-0-0-0-5.sffl.va.charter.com (96.34.93.169) 11.641 ms 10.820 ms 10.627 ms
6 dca-edge-22.inet.qwest.net (65.123.21.117) 15.959 ms
dca-edge-22.inet.qwest.net (72.165.200.233) 17.555 ms
dca-edge-22.inet.qwest.net (65.123.21.117) 15.834 ms
7 dcp-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.251.110) 16.592 ms 16.493 ms 18.335 ms
8 63.146.26.18 (63.146.26.18) 18.311 ms 18.228 ms 16.415 ms
9 xe-3-3-0.mia10.ip4.tinet.net (141.136.109.25) 45.913 ms 47.359 ms 45.719 ms
10 google-gw.ip4.tinet.net (77.67.71.114) 46.479 ms 48.899 ms 75.101 ms
11 208.117.248.16 (208.117.248.16) 45.928 ms 47.016 ms 47.956 ms
Jamess-MacBook-Pro:~ jamesmowery$

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Re: Youtube buffering

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I agree with guys.  Youtube has been slow to buffer movies as of late and it'll stop playing the video so it can catch up.

 

I'd expect this on slower DSL but not my 50/25 fios line....

 

I'm in the Philadelphia area if that helps any.

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Re: Youtube buffering

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Same here in Rhode Island as well.  Went to several Video streaming sites like Vimeo.. and no problem at all on 1080p streaming.  Lol, I can't even get some 240p videos on Youtube to play.  Called up a friend who lives up the street on Cox and they have no problem at all.  I noticed that there never seems to be any Verizon reps replying to any of these threads either.

 

Also, this is done from straight ethernet and not wireless either.  This is beyond pathetic though and if they are throttling on purpose then a class action lawsuit is in order.

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Re: Youtube buffering

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Having the same issues in Newport News, VA on 75/35 FiOS.  I can't load YouTube videos, even at 240p resolution, but everything else is fine - other streaming sites, downloads via game clients like Steam and Origin, and regular downloads through my web browser.  For what it's worth, I am not using Verizon's provided Actiontec router.

 

Perhaps there is a routing issue somewhere in VA that is causing the slowdown?

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Re: Youtube buffering

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Okay. They are not throttling. Read my explanation above and also check out this graph from YouTube itself (source: http://youtube.com/my_speed).

 

It's not just Verizon seeing the YouTube issues. Keep in mind, the "Your Network" rating is computed based on IP range. I'm sharing that result with other DSL users, not FiOS.

 

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Re: Youtube buffering

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With Fios, I have a horrible buffering problem. Switching to a sprint air card which is much slower, i can stream HD video from Youtube with no problem. All other streaming services work, just not Youtube on Fios. Go to your friends houses who don`t have Fios and see the difference. There seems to be something shady going on here.
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Re: Youtube buffering

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I have been having this problem for months. Only I could just watch in SD instead of HD just fine. Now SD youtube videos won't even load. Killin me Verizon. No other website and no other service provider around here have this problem. I use youtube more than any other tv/video game/ etc.
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