Accessibility Resource Center Skip to main content
Have a phone you love? Get up to $500 when you bring your phone.

News Group Censorship

Posts: 1
Registered: ‎08-03-2008

News Group Censorship

Message 1 of 5

I was dumbfounded to find that Verizon has restricted newsgroup access to what it calls "the Big 8."  Is there any possible other explanation than CENSORSHIP to explain this?  It surely can't be bandwidth with all the video downloads that are occurring everywhere else.  



In a time when the Chinese look ridiculous for their attempts at Internet restrictions how could Verizon think locking out a portion of the Internet would be acceptable?  We have been fairly pleased with Fios but we will be switching to another provider if this policy stays in effect.  


Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
Admin Emeritus
Posts: 300
Registered: ‎07-29-2008

Re: News Group Censorship

Message 2 of 5

Thank you for your inquiry, Concerned.

We believe that limiting our Newsgroup service to the Big 8 groups will dramatically cut down on the availability of child pornography, which we believe is an important step in the overall fight against the exploitation of children online. We remain committed to combating child pornography and where we discover it on any Verizon server, we will immediately take action consistent with our terms of service to remove the content and report the matter to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
Verizon's decision to limit its Newsgroup service to the Big 8 hierarchies does not prevent you or any other customer from accessing alt newsgroups through other Newsgroup services, including commercial Newsgroups as well as web-based services like Google Groups which are available at no charge.

Verizon Telecom
Online Center of Excellence

Notice: Content posted by Verizon employees is meant to be informational and does not supercede or change the Verizon Forums User Guidelines or Terms or Service, or your Customer Agreement Terms and Conditions or Plan.

Copper Contributor
Copper Contributor
Posts: 16
Registered: ‎08-05-2008

Re: News Group Censorship

Message 3 of 5
It's not censorship. They aren't blocking it, they're just not hosting it anymore. The NY AG is backing ISPs into a corner to get some press coverage for fighting child porn, and rather than fighting him in court, they just stopped spending money to host other than the big 8.
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎08-18-2008

Re: News Group Censorship

Message 4 of 5

I think what you are referring to is the USENET and not newsgroups in general. There are plenty of *private*, but freely accessible newsgroup systems in existence (I happen to be an admin to several of them). In any case, I personally have no issue whatsoever with a carrier providing access to only a portion of the USENET -- many others are doing the same... so are private companies. The USENET has become so choked with noise that the signal is hardly worth it. Plus, there are so many things that can go wrong with USENET feeds and pickups that it has become more of a burden than a benefit to anyone.


And, no, I do not work for Verizon. It's just been my observation having been involved with things like the USENET for about 25 years. 

Posts: 1
Registered: ‎09-26-2008

Re: News Group Censorship

Message 5 of 5

Don't think for a second that the groups they removed had anything to do with censorship.  Try the bean counters determined that a news server that holds the entire alt group needs over 400TB to have any decent retention., alt.depression.suppot,, and thousands of other groups were deleted but I really doubt that had anything to do with protecting children.


The idea that they are too hard to manage is foolish.  As someone with the experience managing a lot more data at much higher speeds than you will ever see in usenet I assure you a professional can manage this without issue.  (He does need a paycheck though)  What they are serving up now I could run on my network.



How-To Videos
The following videos were produced by users like you!
Videos are subject to the Verizon Fios Community Terms of Service and User Guidelines and contains content that is not created by Verizon.
Have a spare Fios-G1100?Learn how to bridge it into your network
Get Started


Browse Categories

Verizon Troubleshooters
Unable to find your answer here? Try searching Verizon Troubleshooters for more options.
Modal Dialogue Title