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Upgraded from 25/25 to 50/25. Wireless speeds are still the same.

Upgraded from 25/25 to 50/25. Wireless speeds are still the same.

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Bronze Contributor I
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Registered: ‎02-27-2012
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I've had no luck on these solutions. Tried changing 1, 6, 11, and back to Auto. Ran FiOS optimizer, set WPA2 AES password. Set to performance mode. Reinstalled network adapter. Everything I could possibly do. It looks like I wasted time upgrading the connection. When I had 25/25 you would get 30/25 wirelessly no matter where you were in the house. This is not the case for 50/25. If I am close, then speed reaches about 42/30. If get far away, then it is usually 15/30. The place where I am is somewhat far, I am getting around 20/30. If I am hooked up wired, it goes to about 58/35. I do appreciate your help, btw. I've had many FiOS issues in the past. Especially with latency.

 

Also with this connection, Speedtest.net sometimes says that my connection cannot test the upload speed.

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Registered: ‎12-15-2010
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What link speeds are your Wireless cards on the computer connecting at? I bet ya I can tell you what's going on in this case. If you can provide the names and models of some of those Wireless cards that would help.

Bronze Contributor I
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Like as in Half Duplex or Full Duplex? I am unable to check because something seems to be wrong with the FiOS Speed Test site. After it tests the connection, it goes back to the original page.

 

The card I am using right now is a DW WLAN 1501 Half Mini-Card (4313bgn). That is the Dell's version of Broadcom's 802.11n Network Adapter. Theoretical value for speed in this card is 52.0 mbps.

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Wireless N by nature is half duplex along with Wireless G and B, and even Wireless A. Not much you can do about that unless you have one of those fancy proprietary dual radio APs and chips that run in Full Duplex on Wireless N.

 

The Dell Wireless 1501 (Broadcom 943xx Chipset) maxes at a 20Mhz link of 72Mbps. The most you'll see out of that chip is an effective 45Mbps downstream. Upstream is hard to measure due to the large difference in transmit vs receive antennas and signal quality.

 

http://certifications.wi-fi.org/pdf_certificate.php?cid=WFA8883

 

Needless to say, that is a very low end chip and uses only a single antenna for transmit or receive. You won't see more than 72Mbps theoretical out of it. The Rev. I has a better chip in it however it is still a lower end chip compared to some found in beefier APs.

 

This is why I hate the Wireless N standard. It is more of a substandard as there is such an array of hardware and link combinations. Wireless G was "Wireless G, or Wireless B, 54Mbps or link-negotiated rate" not including anything proprietary or experimental found on very few routers and radios (aka, the most expensive ones meant to run Wireless G at 40Mhz to accomplish 108Mbps theoretical). The same goes with Wireless A, which effectively is the 5Ghz equivalent of Wireless G. You got the full 54Mbps or you got nothing as there was nothing backwards compatible. Wireless N is just all over the place.

Bronze Contributor I
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So pretty much its not the ISP's fault. It's mostly just the network card?

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It's just the combination of gear, yes. If you're getting 55Mbps/25Mbps hardwired Verizon's doing their job. No ISP will guarantee Wireless speeds and even at work where I happen to work in IT at a datacenter and run dual band A/G Access Points we don't guarantee speeds on the wireless, only on Wired. We run brand new Access points as the building is new as well, and have them dense enough to supply some serious banwidth and to provide "5 bar service" on either band, however very few people use them and speeds can still be a rollercoaster at times with a few folks on it since the Wired network is significantly faster. Wireless is the bottleneck.

 

Only thing you can do to increase wireless performance is get some gear capable of performing at higher speeds. The Rev. I is capable, but the chip in the computer is not.

Contributor xedef
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I have 50/25, my initial speed test was 10/11, once I switched from WEP to WPA-2 it jumped to 32/25.

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Silver Contributor II
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@Vigz wrote:

So pretty much its not the ISP's fault. It's mostly just the network card?


  ...and not every speedtest website gives the same results - try others and see. Smiley Wink

Contributor Francesc
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The same exact thing happens to me. I upgraded from 25Mb to 50Mb (because 25 was dissapearing) and my speed remains at around 22MB as with my prior contract. I contacted suported and they said that they cannot guarantee the speed wirelessly. They cannot send a tecnician either. The difference is huge and cannot be explained by mirrors, cellphones or microwaves as they say....Is cancelling the service the only option I have??? 

Contributor sharpshoota75
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My understanding is that the bottleneck for you is the wireless protocol that your hardware uses. Newer faster protocols are around the corner but that's why it's not worth getting faster packages yet if you're not using ethernet to the computer. 

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