War between Netflix and Verizon FIOS? Who will win?

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War between Netflix and Verizon FIOS? Who will win?

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WAR has started between NETFLIX and the Beast Verizon FIOS.  Any idea who will win?

 

  

     http://money.cnn.com/2014/06/05/technology/netflix-verizon/

 

 

 

 

 

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No, but I can tell you who will LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Us, the paying customer. In the end we will be the ones screwed over.
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Verizon is also apparently afraid of transparency by issuing a Cease and Desist letter to Netflix to prevent them from exposing the fact that Verizon is not adequately upgrading their port capacity to meet the demands of the bandwidth levels they are charging for.

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http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/shifting-blame?_ga=1.130050950.822000576.1402003178

 

Verizon VP David Young said "It would be more accurate for Netflix's message screen to say: 'The path that we have chosen to reach Verizon’s network is crowded right now.'"


 

It would be most accurate for Mr. Young to say "Netflix hasn't paid us enough, so the path we're providing them is crowded right now."

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There is nothing wrong with the path.  Verizon is apparently intentionally limiting or throttling traffic from certain providers.  I have noticed it myself with online video at night.  

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Netflix is more important to me and many people I know than any of the cable or even local TV channels at this point. Verizon needs to stop abusing netflix, play along and embrace the future - maybe even lower the prices.

I hate paying the $100/montgh for a whole bunch of channel that I never ever watch.

Netflix + hbogo combo does the job for me.

Does anyone know if netflix over comcast is better in video/audio quality than we have with fios? I would switch tomorrow for a better deal.

Today Verizon gets paid plenty. I have been slowly dumping cable packages still the price is unacceptable.

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@kerryT wrote:

I hate paying the $100/montgh for a whole bunch of channel that I never ever watch.



Ok so then why do you?

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What's the mater big V?  Don't like it when you are called out?  I'm absolutely convinced that you (Verizon)  are throttling Netfix.  Prior to December of 2013 Netflix buffered instantly.  Subsequent data chunks ALSO buffered nearly instantly (I can watch the activity on my network).  I have 75/35.

 

By the end of December/Beginning of January, I found it difficult to even maintain an HD connection to Netflix.  A connection that really should only take up about 3MBs.  That issue remains to this day.

 

Compare that to any encrypted download I do which REGULARLY surpasses my 75MBs speed, during the same time of day. There's no 'congestion' there's only 'Traffic Shaping' (read: putting someone in the penalty box) being done by you

 

We're not stupid V.  We see where you are extorting cash from others for 'priority' access to your network.  Did Netflix not pay their "protection money" this month?  You would think that you would have learned back during the AT&T monopoly/alternative LD company days that unless you play fair, you will be MADE TO PLAY FAIR using the BIG STICK.

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Netflix is being VERY disengenious and almsot deceitful with that message. 

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@jp8899 wrote:

There is nothing wrong with the path.  Verizon is apparently intentionally limiting or throttling traffic from certain providers.  I have noticed it myself with online video at night.  



There's something very wrong with the path that they are choosing.

 

Netflix actually has quite a bit of control.

 

 


In a little known, but public fact, anyone who is on Comcast or Verizon and using Apple TV to stream Netflix wasn’t having quality problems. The reason for this is that Netflix is using Level 3 and Limelight to stream their content specifically to the Apple TV device. What this shows is that Netflix is the one that decides and controls how they get their content to each device and whether they do it via their own servers or a third party. Netflix decides which third party CDNs to use and when Netflix uses their own CDN, they decide whom to buy transit from, with what capacity, in what locations and how many connections they buy, from the transit provider. Netflix is the one in control of this, not Comcast or any ISP.


 

 

See The below articles.

Unbalanced Peering, and the Real Story Behind the Verizon/Cogent Dispute (cogent is one of netflix's providers)

This article details the technical aspect of it, pretty interesting read if you're into that sort of stuff. Verizon Signed a similiar deal with netflix as well.

 

 

Also if you want to understand how this all really works here is another great article by CNET

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