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Vizio blames Verizon
kirkunit
Enthusiast - Level 2
‎03-09-2010 12:09 PM

I run HDMI from the HD DVR STB to my Vizio. I run S-Video from the STB to a Toshiba DVD recorder. HDMI from the DVD-R to the TV.

The passed through video from the STB to the DVD-R is getting stretched and the set disallows changing the aspect ratio back to pillarbox (original aspect of 4:3).

Is the Verizon STB messing up the signal?

I have SD override set to "off".

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Re: Vizio blames Verizon
Hubrisnxs
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‎03-09-2010 02:04 PM
@kirkunit wrote:

I run HDMI from the HD DVR STB to my Vizio. I run S-Video from the STB to a Toshiba DVD recorder. HDMI from the DVD-R to the TV.

The passed through video from the STB to the DVD-R is getting stretched and the set disallows changing the aspect ratio back to pillarbox (original aspect of 4:3).

Is the Verizon STB messing up the signal?

I have SD override set to "off".

I think just about every manufacturer blames HDMI problems on the other guy's equipment. I like to blame the HDMI design and implementation. It was kinda a rushed technology and has caused problems throughout the industry. 

 Have you checked the relevant manufacturer thread in the "HDTV Forums" at http://www.avsforum.com?         Sometimes manufacturers provide firmware updates to solve issues like this. In the mean time your best work around is to switch to the Component Video connection instead of HDMI.  

The STB itself does not have a pass through, it doesn't need one, the toshiba dvd recorder should have the passthrough, but what model number is it?  i can look at the manual maybe and see if there is a pass through like that. 

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Re: Vizio blames Verizon
spacedebris
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‎03-09-2010 02:09 PM

kirkunit wrote:

I run HDMI from the HD DVR STB to my Vizio. I run S-Video from the STB to a Toshiba DVD recorder. HDMI from the DVD-R to the TV.

The passed through video from the STB to the DVD-R is getting stretched and the set disallows changing the aspect ratio back to pillarbox (original aspect of 4:3).

Is the Verizon STB messing up the signal?

I have SD override set to "off".

the problem is more likely to be the toshiba. The svideo connection from the stb to the dvd-r is a sd signal and then the link from the dvd-r to the tv is hdmi. the toshiba is likely stretching the pic. a lot of devices will stretch a sd pic when outputting on hdmi.

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Re: Vizio blames Verizon
kirkunit
Enthusiast - Level 2
‎03-09-2010 02:15 PM

The model of the recorder is Toshiba D-R400. I've tried every combination of settings and the "zoom" button on every device to try to stop this stuff.

Spacedebris, you may be onto something there. I previously had it hooked up to a Panasonic 720p set via S-Video, and did not see the problem. Only when I got the Vizio and used the HDMI connection did it appear.

It's even stretching 16:9 content and letterboxing it. Very ugly. Ack.

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Re: Vizio blames Verizon
kirkunit
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‎03-09-2010 02:17 PM

Oh, there's no component out. Just HDMI, S-Video, and composite.

I'd use the S-Video, but then I don't get upconversion to 1080p.

Oh, and I did ask on the Vizio thread at AVS. I came here when I did not get any helpful responses. Figured the Verizon gurus might have a go at the problem ....

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Re: Vizio blames Verizon
Hubrisnxs
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‎03-09-2010 02:26 PM
@spacedebris wrote:

@kirkunit wrote:

I run HDMI from the HD DVR STB to my Vizio. I run S-Video from the STB to a Toshiba DVD recorder. HDMI from the DVD-R to the TV.

The passed through video from the STB to the DVD-R is getting stretched and the set disallows changing the aspect ratio back to pillarbox (original aspect of 4:3).

Is the Verizon STB messing up the signal?

I have SD override set to "off".

the problem is more likely to be the toshiba. The svideo connection from the stb to the dvd-r is a sd signal and then the link from the dvd-r to the tv is hdmi. the toshiba is likely stretching the pic. a lot of devices will stretch a sd pic when outputting on hdmi.

actually this is probably exactly the issue in general. because the s video cable is a maximum of 480i resolution so it probably naturally switches the stb to that resolution.    you mentioned it does hdmi, is there any reason why you can't use hdmi on that toshiba?   maybe you need an hdmi switch to add HDMI ports?   

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Re: Vizio blames Verizon
kirkunit
Enthusiast - Level 2
‎03-09-2010 02:40 PM

Hubris, that's exactly what I'm doing. When I used the S-Video with my old tv (no HDMI inputs) the picture appeared normally, in a 4:3 window.

Using the HDMI connection, it's getting stretched.

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Re: Vizio blames Verizon
tsauter1
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‎03-09-2010 06:23 PM
@kirkunit wrote:

Hubris, that's exactly what I'm doing. When I used the S-Video with my old tv (no HDMI inputs) the picture appeared normally, in a 4:3 window.

Using the HDMI connection, it's getting stretched.

I believe Hubrisnsx is asking if you can have the incoming feed as HDMI instead of s-video. So it would be STB----HDMI----DVD-R-----HDMI----TV.

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Re: Vizio blames Verizon
kirkunit
Enthusiast - Level 2
‎03-10-2010 06:01 AM

Tsauter, that's not an option.

Choices are S-Video and Composite inputs on the DVD-R.

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Re: Vizio blames Verizon
tsauter1
Specialist - Level 1
‎03-11-2010 11:26 AM

I would try the composite then. Composite is capable of carrying a HD signal where the s-video is not. It is possible its a data format issue. If thats the case then switching to Composite should fix the upscaling issue.

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