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Copper Contributor
Copper Contributor
Posts: 15
Registered: ‎08-19-2011
Message 71 of 77

Up again Monday morning 21 Nov:



Tracing route to landzdown.com []

over a maximum of 30 hops:


  1     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms

  2    41 ms    33 ms    33 ms

  3    42 ms    35 ms    34 ms

  4    42 ms    36 ms    36 ms  so-5-3-0-0.NY325-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net []

  5    42 ms    36 ms    37 ms  0.xe-3-0-0.BR3.NYC4.ALTER.NET []

  6    42 ms    36 ms    35 ms

  7    43 ms    36 ms    36 ms  ae-3.r05.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net []

  8    42 ms    36 ms    35 ms  xe-1-0-0.bbr01.tl01.nyc01.networklayer.com []

  9    55 ms    48 ms    48 ms  ae7.bbr02.tl01.nyc01.networklayer.com []

 10    68 ms    61 ms    61 ms  ae1.bbr01.eq01.chi01.networklayer.com []

 11    93 ms    87 ms    87 ms  ae20.bbr01.eq01.dal03.networklayer.com []

 12    97 ms    90 ms    89 ms  ae5.bbr01.sr02.hou02.networklayer.com []

 13    98 ms    92 ms    92 ms  po31.dsr02.hstntx2.networklayer.com []

 14    98 ms    90 ms    92 ms  po16.dsr01.hstntx1.networklayer.com []

 15    98 ms    91 ms    90 ms  po1.car05.hstntx1.networklayer.com []

 16    98 ms    90 ms    90 ms  ns1.manageyourpc.com []


Trace complete.


EDIT:   I see this is to the NEW IP address

the old one was

from which I'm assuming the server/hardware changes have been implemented.

Bronze Contributor I
Bronze Contributor I
Posts: 59
Registered: ‎01-26-2009
Message 72 of 77
Eureka, I Am Connected to Landzdown.com!!! Thank you everyone who worked so diligently to make this happen. May you all have a blessed Thanksgiving.
Nickel Contributor
Nickel Contributor
Posts: 27
Registered: ‎09-23-2011
Message 73 of 77

Let's hope moving the site to a different IP address solved the problem. 

Platinum Contributor III Platinum Contributor III
Platinum Contributor III
Posts: 7,424
Registered: ‎12-15-2010
Message 74 of 77

Looks like the new IP did the trick. The old one must've gotten stuck in some sort of black hole, lol!


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C:\Users\>tracert landzdown.com

Tracing route to landzdown.com []
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms
  2    80 ms    57 ms    93 ms
  3    97 ms    80 ms    80 ms  so-1-1-0-0.BUFF-CORE-RTR2.verizon-gni.net []
  4   114 ms    91 ms    93 ms  as4-0.NY5030-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net []
  5   125 ms    93 ms    92 ms  0.ae5.BR3.NYC4.ALTER.NET []
  6   102 ms   137 ms   137 ms
  7   116 ms    91 ms    91 ms  ae-3.r05.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net []
  8   170 ms   137 ms   137 ms  xe-1-0-0.bbr01.tl01.nyc01.networklayer.com []
  9     *      119 ms    93 ms  ae7.bbr02.tl01.nyc01.networklayer.com []
 10   154 ms    92 ms    93 ms  ae1.bbr01.eq01.chi01.networklayer.com []
 11   112 ms   128 ms   116 ms  ae20.bbr01.eq01.dal03.networklayer.com []
 12   145 ms   137 ms   137 ms  ae5.bbr01.sr02.hou02.networklayer.com []
 13   170 ms   183 ms   126 ms  po31.dsr01.hstntx2.networklayer.com []
 14   110 ms   138 ms   155 ms  po16.dsr02.hstntx1.networklayer.com []
 15   121 ms   142 ms   117 ms  po2.car05.hstntx1.networklayer.com []
 16   148 ms   126 ms   138 ms  ns1.manageyourpc.com []

Trace complete.


Posts: 1
Registered: ‎10-12-2011
Message 75 of 77

Hello everyone,


I'm Aaron, and I'm the server administrator for the box that hosts Landzdown.com. I thought I'd update the thread with what I'm hoping will be the final update on things.


But first, I want to thank Corrine for helping me with gathering user reports, logs and other info through this. My actual work is something other than web servers (I host this box for my own personal email and website, along with free hosting for friends' sites, my mom's sole proprietorship, and a non-profit group I volunteer at), and her help allowed me to keep proper focus at work, and look into the web server after coming home for the day.


Also, thank you to the Verizon network engineers that looked into things on their end. They researched things with due diligence and came back with useful information and guidance for me to back to the hosting company with. I very much appreciate their taking time to try and help solve this issue.


And, my apologies to everyone trying to reach the site for how long this took to resolve. I appreciate everyone's patience while this was being worked on, and for your working to help provide logs and other information. It's difficult to troubleshoot things when not directly on site where the problem's happening at, and your logs were instrumental in helping me understand what was happening. Thank you for all you did to help.


As you noticed, I switched the site's IP address to try and get things online while I looked for a more permanent solution. (For the curious, I only changed the assigned IP address the site lived on - it was the same server, same firewall, same routing table, and the same physical network port on the box, and nothing changed at the hosting company.) I did have a ticket open with the hosting company to try and resolve things, and I supplied them with your logs and other info, but I did not receive the level of support I needed. And, while the issue was impacting both here and another ISP initially, a new issue came up regarding reaching an antispam data source - the packets were not routing correctly. I needed to get off of this server.


On Friday night into Saturday morning, I moved everything over to a new server at another hosting company, which I believe will bring this to a final resolution. (Hopefully everything I did minimized any downtime for you while DNS updates propagated, and you're still able to reach the site right now without issue.) And, from setting it up, it already appears things will be better. I had to open a ticket for reverse DNS updates, which I opened around 4:30am Central Time Saturday morning (time zone for the hosting company - it was 2:30am for me), and in the minute and a half between opening the ticket and checking my email for the acknowledgement, they had already made the changes and resolved the ticket. This hosting company was recommended to me by a good friend of mine that has worked with several hosting companies, and it would seem his recommendation is spot on.


I strongly believe things will be set for the long term, and if a new issue does come up later (hopefully never, but if it must, i hope it's much, much later), that things are in a position to more quickly drive the issue to resolution. Again, I very much appreciate your patience and your help towards resolving this. You all did what the previous hosting company did not - you went the extra mile. Thank you.



Aaron Hulett


(The views and opinions expressed in my post are my own, and do not reflect the views and opinions of Microsoft. Microsoft is a registered trademark or trademark of Microsoft Corporation in the United States and/or other countries.)

Platinum Contributor III Platinum Contributor III
Platinum Contributor III
Posts: 7,424
Registered: ‎12-15-2010
Message 76 of 77
You're certainly welcome! Bummer to hear about the increase in routing issues, but I hope Steadfast will work out nicely for many years to come. I at one point did use SoftLayer (owners of ThePlanet) for running my dedicated server, though I mainly had issues not with their support but with what they offered. I moved to a company named SingleHop located in Chicago and they've been treating me well. I'm not sure if Corrine pointed it out to you yet, but I had seen similar issues (inability to route) before in the past to a server I used to manage before the days of my current dedicated server, however the problem was a bit more apparent and appeared differently from what we saw with Landzdown.com. It's quite a unique problem at that and ultimatlely the solution to fixings that was a case of getting a new IP. The bad IP seemed to somehow get messed up to a point where it was essentially a black hole, lol. This was not with SoftLayer, though. It was in a Global Crossing Datacenter where I had this issue.

Anyways, the site is still reachable on my end, but it should be since DNS here tends to update the moment a domain's records change.
Nickel Contributor
Nickel Contributor
Posts: 27
Registered: ‎09-23-2011
Message 77 of 77

You're welcome, Aaron.  I was happy to help.

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