Re: Introducing the new Verizon FIOS TV Guide, now even worse than before!
Justin46
Legend

@0100010 wrote:

Depends which Guide you're looking at in 1.9.

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Excellent post! I hope all of those complaining will read it, really shows how off base they are. Thanks for posting.

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Justin
FiOS TV, Internet, and phone user
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Keller, TX 76248

Re: Introducing the new Verizon FIOS TV Guide, now even worse than before!
MovieBuff3
Enthusiast - Level 2

You can only change the menu from 4 to 6 channels.

I agree with all of the critical reviews...

Just when I begin to understand and utilize the functions, Verizon feels the necessity to change the whole layout!

WHAT THE HELL FOR??

THE BIG QUESTION:

Why did Verizon waste time and resources to "update" the menu?  It wasn't broken!  It worked, so don't "fix" it.


THE NEW MENU IS HORRIBLE.

And who came up with the color change?  Baby blue?  REALLY???

If you want to add new features and/or make the menu more efficient, then ADD those features.

Don't make a complete facelift to the entire design!

And why doesn't Verizon do what other developers do?

Offer a Beta version to users so Verizon can get CONSTRUCTIVE feedback from the end users.

Re: Introducing the new Verizon FIOS TV Guide, now even worse than before!
MovieBuff3
Enthusiast - Level 2

Depends which Guide you're looking at in 1.9.

 

You can choose the Full Guide (in Standard or Classic) views, Channel Guide, Half Guide or Mini Guide.

 

7xxx HD

Full Guide Standard = 7 channels (hit Guide once)

Full Guide Classic = 5 channels (available option in Television settings menu)

Channel Guide = 7 channels horizontally (hit Guide twice)

Mini Guide = really just one channel at a time (hit the down arrow on live TV)

Half Guide = 6 channels (hit the up arrow on live TV)

 

2500 / 6xxx / 7xxx SD

Full Guide Standard = 6 channels (hit Guide once)

Full Guide Classic = 4 channels (available option in Television settings menu)

Channel Guide = 6 channels horizontally (hit Guide twice)

Mini Guide = really just one channel at a time (hit the down arrow on live TV)

Half Guide = 5 channels (hit the up arrow on live TV)

What a waste of time!

Don't you and the rest of the Verizon geeks realize that the average end user is a VIEWER not a techie?

We don't want to play with (and waste time with) all of these silly options.  In fact, I'll bet the majority of Verizon customers don't want or need to have all of these ridiculous options.

We just want to view our selected channels in the best resolution possible and to have the basic ability to find a movie or show, and be able to record, pause and playback movies or other media.  PERIOD.

If you want to offer all of these other "hyper-options", then put them in a special area and call it "Customize Your Viewing Pleasure" or an equivalent label so the Geeks can go there and play while the rest of us can get down to business and  just watch our TV sets.

Re: Introducing the new Verizon FIOS TV Guide, now even worse than before!
nascar
Master - Level 1
They did offer a beta version and plenty was offered in terms of trying to change the colors, contrast, and fonts used.  I have yet to see the latest version but I'm hoping more tweaks down the road can be made to improve the readability.

What I'm seeing from others as 1.9 is rolled out is there is consistent criticism of the look (colors, contrast, and fonts) and not the functionality which is a tremendous improvement over 1.8.


MovieBuff wrote:

You can only change the menu from 4 to 6 channels.

I agree with all of the critical reviews...

Just when I begin to understand and utilize the functions, Verizon feels the necessity to change the whole layout!

WHAT THE HELL FOR??

THE BIG QUESTION:

Why did Verizon waste time and resources to "update" the menu?  It wasn't broken!  It worked, so don't "fix" it.


THE NEW MENU IS HORRIBLE.

And who came up with the color change?  Baby blue?  REALLY???

If you want to add new features and/or make the menu more efficient, then ADD those features.

Don't make a complete facelift to the entire design!

And why doesn't Verizon do what other developers do?

Offer a Beta version to users so Verizon can get CONSTRUCTIVE feedback from the end users.


Re: Introducing the new Verizon FIOS TV Guide, now even worse than before!
jackmcgann
Specialist - Level 1

 get down to business and  just watch our TV sets.

LOL,  care to reword that oxymoron !!

Re: Introducing the new Verizon FIOS TV Guide, now even worse than before!
flaguy66
Enthusiast - Level 2

I have two TVs in my home, one is a 6*** box and the other a 7*** box.  The 6*** box got updated first, and I almost blew a gasket, for the exact reasons stated here, a lack of channels, bad font/color scheme and also the placement of the picture as embedded, versus overlay. 

Then the 7*** box television got upgraded, which displays the guide in HD.  My immediate reaction is that its fine, I can handle it.  It has enough channels to live with, and which doesn't radically change what I perceive as "standard". 

I'm hearing that I'm essentially SOL for getting the 6*** box to display this guide with an acceptable number of channels.  However I do have a choice, go back to Brighthouse, which had PiP, a great "start over" feature and Bay News 9.

I'll be asking Verizon to give me the right hardware to support these "enhancements" to my service.  If they refuse, I'll happily "revert" to cable :).

Re: Introducing the new Verizon FIOS TV Guide, now even worse than before!
VectorVictor
Enthusiast - Level 3

I'm sorry, but I looked at the screenshots that 0100010 put up (thank you, BTW), and I don't see why people are complaining. 

The new guide looks heads and shoulders above what we had before, which was horrible.  Lots of functionality, the guide options remind me of what's available with TiVo from a while back (that's a good thing), and there's no problem with the color palete. 

Sure, the number of channels has been reduced somewhat, but with a 16:9 guide, you're getting more real estate to view upcoming shows by channel and details on the current show, so you make out better in the end than what you were.  And even with the 4:3 guides, there doesn't appear to be any problems, save for losing one or two channels/screen. 

I guess I don't see where all the venom and vitrol is coming from.  Perhaps folks should focus on something valid, like, say, the lack of new HD channels on the horizon...

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Re: Introducing the new Verizon FIOS TV Guide, now even worse than before!
VectorVictor
Enthusiast - Level 3

@moviebuff wrote:
What a waste of time!

Don't you and the rest of the Verizon geeks realize that the average end user is a VIEWER not a techie?

We don't want to play with (and waste time with) all of these silly options.  In fact, I'll bet the majority of Verizon customers don't want or need to have all of these ridiculous options.

We just want to view our selected channels in the best resolution possible and to have the basic ability to find a movie or show, and be able to record, pause and playback movies or other media.  PERIOD.

If you want to offer all of these other "hyper-options", then put them in a special area and call it "Customize Your Viewing Pleasure" or an equivalent label so the Geeks can go there and play while the rest of us can get down to business and  just watch our TV sets.


So, in short, you're mad that Verizon is offering a new experience and more options to the customer? 

Really? Robot Indifferent

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Re: Introducing the new Verizon FIOS TV Guide, now even worse than before!
freedoms1
Enthusiast - Level 3

I can see there are two, distinct camps that have emerged about this upgrade. Those people who really like it, and aren't the least bit daunted by the new features. And there are those people who just want to watch television without having to trifle with a lot of features they'll never use, anyway.
And I understand BOTH points-of-view.

I'm in the middle. I like some of the new features, but I find some of the settings (and the new guide's look) superfluous.

I liken this new design to each new operating system Microsoft rolls out. They're always full of "bloatware," and if you aren't willing to spend a lot of time finding out what, say, Windows Messenger is, or that there's a way to change the look of the desktop, you're at the mercy of the software designer.

I would suspect when Verizon signed-up its beta testers, they had hoped to attract tech savvy people who aren't inhibited by new technology. That's beneficial, but perhaps, only to a degree.

However, I also understand that many, many people don't care to roam around in their settings to determine the difference between a Full Guide, Half Screen Guide, Mini Guide or Channel Guide. They aren't about to try to figure out the difference between a "Classic View," and a "Standard View." They just want to watch television.

Here's what I considered to be some CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. For the next software release, can you please offer a legacy function that will enable users to choose the look and feel of the guide? If not, please consider the fact that some people (I'm not necessarily one of them) don't shell out their money (which seems to increase every month) to watch their guides!

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Re: Introducing the new Verizon FIOS TV Guide, now even worse than before!
mcb01
Enthusiast - Level 2

@freedoms wrote:

I liken this new design to each new operating system Microsoft rolls out. They're always full of "bloatware," and if you aren't willing to spend a lot of time finding out what, say, Windows Messenger is, or that there's a way to change the look of the desktop, you're at the mercy of the software designer.



This is actually the fault of computer manufacturers like HP or Dell that sell pre-built machines with bloatware. Those types of programs are not inherently part of any Windows OS.