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patlandy
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I receive emails from my sister in Minnesota via her .msn account.  I usually get the first one right away (with or without attachments). A second or more emails simply seem to go into limbo.... I don't receive them until hours or (in a couple of occasions) until the next day.

You can imagine the difficulty this causes when trying to design a website for her and needed consistant input.

I can have her send an emails to both my "pair networks" account, which forwards to my "Verizon" account and to my "verizon" account simultaniously and I  receive the message via "pair networks" immeciately but don't see the direct verizon email for an hour or two...

It appears that verizon is delaying .msn mail from Minnesota to Florida. I don't have problems with any other email, only the .msn from minnesota... I use pop service and Thunderbird.

Thanks

Pat

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Lots of reason for delays.  Including reason attacks by people trying with Denial of Service  (DOS) attacks. 

 

Most people are now spoiled by one day delivery of email was once common.

patlandy
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This has been going on for months.... and only .MSM from Minnesota is affected.... My first experience with the internet was using DOS and a couple of early search engines called "Minuett" and "Gophor".....

I'm trying to find out why verizon is taking extra time delivering email from .msn in Minnesota and trying to find out if there is a way to exempt certain senders from the delays....

Thanks anyway...

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More likely MSN is having trouble connecting for whatever reason.  Mail once it successfully delivered to a Verizon server is usually delivered very quickly.  Yes, it could be verizon's problem that the Verizon server is not accepting traffic from MSN.  This is based on some of the other headers that people have posted.

patlandy
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From my post:

     I can have her send an emails to both my "pair networks" account, which forwards to my "Verizon" account and to my     "verizon" account simultaniously and I  receive the message via "pair networks" immeciately but don't see the direct verizon email for an hour or two...

 

The 2 addresses are in the same email.... one goes through immediately (pair networks forwarded thru verizon) the other (verizon ) is delayed hours..

Both are delivered by Verizon

Both are sent from .MSN in Minnesota

BOTH ARE IN THE SAME EMAIL!!!

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Not sure what you mean by pair network.  You may want to check the headers of the two emails to see what servers they are going through. If a set of different servers (verizon or not) they may indicate where the problem is.  If you do see they reach a verizon server and then its delayed, you may need to contact them directly about it.  Posting here is NOT going to get Verizon's attention as this is peer to peer.

patlandy
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Pair Networks is a web hosting service....

 

Pair gets the email from msn , washes it, forwards it to my  Verizon address I get it immediately.

Receivedfrom aoba.pair.com ([209.68.4.229]) by vms172061.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.34.0 64bit (built Oct 14 2014)) with SMTP id <0NHM008STL2R6N10@vms172061.mailsrvcs.net> for {edited for privacy}; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 17:54:33 -0600 (CST)

Received(qmail 25206 invoked by uid 3164); 3 Jan 2015 23:54:27 -0000

Received(qmail 25200 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2015 23:54:27 -0000

from mailwash42.pair.com (66.39.2.42) by aoba.pair.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2015 23:54:27 -0000

Received from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailwash42.pair.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 48C971C093C for {edited for privacy}; Sat, 3 Jan 2015 18:54:27 -0500 (EST)

Received from BAY004-OMC1S24.hotmail.com (bay004-omc1s24.hotmail.com [65.54.190.35]) by mailwash42.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4A81C0863 for {edited for privacy}; Sat, 3 Jan 2015 18:54:24 -0500 (EST)

Received fromBAY174-W29 ([65.54.190.61]) by BAY004-OMC1S24.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Sat, 3 Jan 2015 15:54:24 -0800

 

Verizon gets the email from msn,   and delivers it 1 to 8 hours later

Received from BAY004-OMC1S24.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.35]) by vms172087.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.34.0 64bit (built Oct 14 2014)) with ESMTPS id <0NHM00KEJODG41D0@vms172087.mailsrvcs.net> for {edited for privacy}; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 19:05:42 -0600 (CST)

Received from BAY174-W29 ([65.54.190.61]) by BAY004-OMC1S24.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Sat, 3 Jan 2015 15:54:24 -0800

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Hotmail is apparently talking fine to PAIR,  Pair then apparetly talking fine with the Verizon server.

Receivedfrom aoba.pair.com ([209.68.4.229]) by vms172061.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.34.0 64bit (built Oct 14 2014)) with SMTP id <0NHM008STL2R6N10@vms172061.mailsrvcs.net> for {edited for privacy}; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 17:54:33 -0600 (CST)

 

Hotmail is not apparently talking fine to the Verizon server.

Received from BAY004-OMC1S24.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.35]) by vms172087.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.34.0 64bit (built Oct 14 2014)) with ESMTPS id <0NHM00KEJODG41D0@vms172087.mailsrvcs.net> for {edited for privacy}; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 19:05:42 -0600 (CST)

 

Could be sometime wrong with Hotmail's connection to Verizon, or something with Verizon Mail server 172087.  But Verizon did not accept the mail from hotmail until 7:05:42 PM (CST)

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Could be sometime wrong with Hotmail's connection to Verizon, or something with Verizon Mail server 172087.  But Verizon did not accept the mail from hotmail until 7:05:42 PM (CST)

 

I don't know..... That is the purpose of this post, to find someone who can tell me WHY Verizon is not accepting the email from MSN hotmail for hours after all other receipient's providers accept it!!!

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I have the same issue and was hoping to find an answer here. Anyone who sends me e-mail from hotmail or msn, it is delayed anywhere from 30 minutes to 20 hours. Here's the best part, if I look at my Verizon web mail, the receipt time gives me the current time. So for example, I got a message that came in from a hotmail or msn mail account today at 11:55 am, and it says  received at 11:55 am in Verizon Web mail. However, when downloading my e-mail to a local program like Outlook (or I actually use Thunderbird), it shows me the original time it was sent which was actually 8:36 pm last night! and it pops up buried in my list of e-mails with the correct time. So I can see that I have a new e-mail in my inbox, yet I have to scroll down to find it!

 

It's great to get a reply all for an e-mail that I don't get until 15 hours later!!! This needs to get resolved, wether it is verizon delaying the receipt or MSN delaying the send, I can't be put in a postion where someone is expecting a reply and I can't do it because I don't receive the e-mail in a timely manner. There are no other domains in which this issue occurs.

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