Is Verizon throttling speeds to uploaded.to ?
Landscape2
Newbie

Download starts with full speed. then few seconds later it drops down to 50kb/s

If I connect to a VPN service and then download the same file the speed remains high and stable.

?

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Re: Is Verizon throttling speeds to uploaded.to ?
Hubrisnxs
Legend

there TOS says they don't, but that doesn't mean it's not a bad path, or a congested peering point. 

you'd need a traceroute to upload.to and also from upload.to back to you to find out where.

If you can access your router, do the following, and you'll hopefully be working in 5 minutes.

Actiontec MI424-WR - RELEASE DHCP

Click on MY NETWORK icon at the top.

Select NETWORK CONNECTIONS from the menu on the left.

Select BROADBAND CONNECTION (coax or ethernet) depending on your connection to the ONT.

Click SETTINGS

Click RELEASE

Click APPLY

Disconnect the router immediately to prevent it from re-requesting a DHCP lease ---- wait 5 minutes, and turn it all back on and try again

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Re: Is Verizon throttling speeds to uploaded.to ?
Hubrisnxs
Legend

Also from my experience, those sites down't have a great upload speed to begin with, so double check their support forums for the max upload speeds to their servers and also check what their subscription rate is.   If everyone is sending 50 mb uploads, there's a certain point where upload.to won't be able to accomodate everyone doing that.    they may (likely) don't have the capacity at certain times of the day

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Re: Is Verizon throttling speeds to uploaded.to ?
Landscape2
Newbie

I am actaully having a premium account with uploaded.to and never experienced this issue with my previous provider.

I just moved to verizon 2 weeks ago and since then I see this behaviour.

I have no download or upload limit to uploadet.to 

I mean it`s odd to see that, but if I use a VPN service all is fine? Clearly Verizon is artificially slowing the speed towards their servers?

Tracert looks fine, it times out only on the 5th hops, everything is below 80ms.

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Re: Is Verizon throttling speeds to uploaded.to ?
CaptainSTX
Contributor - Level 3

Assuming the OP correctly notated his transfer rate as 50 kbps, this  is only 0.05 Mbps which I doubt would overload any server or connection.

Also strange that using a VPN would make faster because the overhead of a VPN connection normally slows a connection  by 10% - 50%.

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Re: Is Verizon throttling speeds to uploaded.to ?
Hubrisnxs
Legend

That would only be clear if you had a reverse trace from upload.to, without that it's an inference

If you get that we can look at the trace's.  might be a bad asymetric path, or bad load balancing. 

Have you tried rebooting the ONT and or getting a new IP route via the method above?  

It would actually be interesting seeing a trace with and without the vpn. 

Comparing those two you could probably see where the issue is, what hop/router is being bypassed etc.

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Re: Is Verizon throttling speeds to uploaded.to ?
Landscape2
Newbie

Yes, I rebooted the ONT yesterday and released the DHCP / renew IPs 3 times since yesterday.

tracert without VPN

Tracing route to uploaded.to [81.171.123.200]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  router.asus.com [192.168.1.5]
  2     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  l100.nwrknj-vfttp-163.verizon-gni.net [108.35.14
.1]
  3    10 ms     7 ms    10 ms  g1-3-0-0.nwrknj-lcr-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.2
23.174]
  4     8 ms     9 ms     9 ms  ae4-0.nwrk-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net [130.81.199.1
94]
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  6     8 ms     9 ms     9 ms  0.ae2.br2.nyc4.alter.net [140.222.229.93]
  7    48 ms    35 ms    46 ms  204.255.168.174
  8    52 ms    52 ms    52 ms  63.243.128.70
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10     *        *       51 ms  if-3-2.tcore2.aeq-ashburn.as6453.net [216.6.87.9
]
 11    51 ms    52 ms    52 ms  if-2-2.tcore1.aeq-ashburn.as6453.net [216.6.87.2
]
 12    51 ms    50 ms    50 ms  66.198.154.186
 13    53 ms    53 ms    53 ms  unknown.prolexic.com [209.200.144.159]
 14    50 ms    48 ms    48 ms  unknown.prolexic.com [209.200.144.111]
 15    48 ms    47 ms    47 ms  unknown.prolexic.com [209.200.144.77]
 16    53 ms    53 ms    53 ms  unknown.prolexic.com [209.200.144.35]
 17   124 ms   126 ms   125 ms  209.200.172.118
 18   121 ms   122 ms   121 ms  81.171.123.200

Trace complete.

tracert with VPN

Tracing route to uploaded.to [81.171.123.200]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    46 ms    46 ms    44 ms  speedtest.air [10.4.0.1]
  2     *       43 ms    43 ms  unknown-client.static.huge-dns.com [198.203.28.4
1]
  3    43 ms    41 ms    42 ms  core.jax.1.2.12.hugeserver.com [198.205.112.213]

  4    43 ms    43 ms    41 ms  ve103.e2-13.core-b.jcvnflcq.as19844.net [198.205
.127.13]
  5    51 ms    53 ms    50 ms  ae5-162.atl11.ip4.gtt.net [173.241.128.137]
  6    89 ms    90 ms    93 ms  as2914.atl11.ip4.gtt.net [173.241.130.98]
  7     *       87 ms    90 ms  ae-8.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.2
14]
  8    87 ms    86 ms    86 ms  ae-1.r06.asbnva02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.7.2
5]
  9    66 ms    64 ms    67 ms  be-30.r04.asbnva02.us.ce.gin.ntt.net [165.254.19
1.118]
 10    77 ms    78 ms    78 ms  unknown.prolexic.com [209.200.144.159]
 11    76 ms    76 ms    74 ms  unknown.prolexic.com [209.200.144.111]
 12    78 ms    77 ms    79 ms  unknown.prolexic.com [209.200.144.77]
 13    66 ms    67 ms    68 ms  unknown.prolexic.com [209.200.144.35]
 14   156 ms   156 ms   842 ms  209.200.172.118
 15   173 ms   157 ms     *     81.171.123.200
 16   157 ms   156 ms   156 ms  81.171.123.200

Trace complete.

dl speed without VPN at the beginning, i am on verizon fios 75/75

 image

towards the end this happens, ALWAYS, it will drop down below 100kbs later on

image

dl speed with vpn at the beginning

image

towards the end

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Re: Is Verizon throttling speeds to uploaded.to ?
Hubrisnxs
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in the first trace, it's good in vz network but your latency comes at 204.255.168.174 which is verizon, from what I can tell.   I did a who is and I get swipper
 swipper@verizonbusiness.com   and THEN it gets double as bad when it gets to your ISP.

  I would email them and see if you get a response. OR try to open a chat or phone ticket.   the MS times are so low they might not care, but that's the only indication I See in the tracert.   THE PROBLEM with traceroutes, is that it measures round trip latency, but doesn't display round trip paths, it only shows you the forward paths, and that's why it's important to get the reverse traceroute, to see where the real problem is.  the reverse trace will show paths that you don't even know exist, and may point to the real problem. 

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Re: Is Verizon throttling speeds to uploaded.to ?
Hubrisnxs
Legend

Follow up question, is it ever better one time of the day vs another? 

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Re: Is Verizon throttling speeds to uploaded.to ?
Kestrel3
Contributor - Level 2

Hubrisnxs  - what does releasing the DHCP do, and how would it speed up the connection?

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