like i said there were 2 different techs and a supervisor trying to fix the upload speed.we tried everything.ran speed test in safe and regular mode (speedtest.net,speakeasy.net,My speed pc &Verizon speed test),disabled all virus,spyware and firewall software.were testing on 4 computers(ethernet),3 pc's and a mac all the same result.even tried a clean install on one of my pc's.So i think we can rule out my setup.