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09-10-2016 05:00 PM - edited 09-10-2016 06:43 PM
Hi I got Verizon Gateway G1100 router for my Verizon 50/50 package. I have been having problems from the get go. I have exchanged 2 routers so far and I am on my third router.
Here is my setup
I have a Laptop, Cisco IP Phone, ObiHai OBi200 VoIP Telephone Adapter adaptor connected via Ethernet port.
I have several tablets, smart phone and Rokus connecting to Router via WiFi.
Here is the problem
Here is what I have done so far
Workarounds
Things not tried yet
09-11-2016 03:25 AM - edited 09-11-2016 03:26 AM
Disconnect -- not just power off -- everything from the router. Connect the coax from the ONT to your router. Plug in the router, wait until it finishes booting, connect ONLY the PC with an ethernet cable directly to the router.
You should have a single coax connection into the router (your FiOS connection is coax isn't it), and a single connection from the PC to the router. No other devices cabled or powered on.
Report your results.
Do you live in a single family house or a multi-unit apartment? If in a house, is it possible to directly cable from the ONT to the router temporarily? If you try this, also report the results.
Looking to minimize variables to identify the source of your issue.
09-11-2016 06:34 PM
Hi lasagna
Thanks for your response.
I followed your instructions and found the following. I was running a PING command to 8.8.8.8 in a batch file every 30 seconds to check connectivity via the router throughout the below exercise.
1. When I have only the Laptop connected with Ethernet cable and nothing else connected, it works fine without any issues.
2. When I connect my ObiHai VoIP Telephone Adapter next, it continued to work. This was my second connection.
3. When I connect my Cisco IP Phone, it continued to work.
4. But when I switched off the Cisco IP Phone, it stopped working again.
From the above, I concluded that
Regarding the other recommendation, I live in a single family house. I haven't visited the ONT before. I don't even know where it is. I can try it, if you can give me some pointers about it.
TIA.
09-11-2016 08:02 PM - edited 09-11-2016 08:09 PM
Can you tell us which model of Cisco IP phone you have? They have quite a few models and vary pretty widely in what they are capable of.
The ONT (Optical Network Terminal) is where the fiber from Verizon is terminated (plugged in). It is a box that may either be inside or outside your home. What model you have is at least partially based on when your home was wired for FiOS and where they were able to mount the ONT (e.g., in the garage versus completely outside in the elements). The ones mounted outside are pretty large and look like a TV cable box. The ones mounted inside can be anything from a little box that would set on a desk easily to ones that are pretty large. I think all the image in this Google search for pictures of verizon fios ONT models is a good range of what's there.
Given that you were able to get a laptop wired directly to the router to work, you may not need to cable the router to the ONT directly. If it's easy to do, it can rule out odd coax runs and device. It sounds like the Cisco IP phone is the first thing to look into. I'm wondering if it's doing some odd DHCP or DNS serving and colliding with the router?
09-12-2016 04:14 AM
Are there two ethernet connections on the phone? If so, plug the ethernet cable into the other connection (you'll need to start over with everything working first) and let me know what happens. As Capricorn1 is indicating, it sounds like the Cisco phone may be running a DHCP server / DNS server that's misdirecting traffic.
Also, open a "cmd" window on the laptop and run the command: ipconfig /all
Do this BEFORE you connect the phone with everything working. Do it AFTER connecting the phone with everything working. Do it AFTER turning the phone off and everything STOPS working. Need to compare the state and settings -- particularly of the ethernet interface -- at each stage.
09-17-2016 05:59 AM
Hi lasgna and Capricorn1
Thanks for your response.
Cisco Phone Model : Cisco IP Phone 7962
As recommended by lasagna, I did the following.
I disconnected everything, powered off, waited for 10 minutes and started from the beginning.
I ran ipconfig in all steps. This section Common to all the outputs. It did NOT change when I went through each step. I compared all the output using a line compare utility. I didn't see anything change as I went through the steps.
Observation
The moment Cisco Phone is plugged into the router (not even powered on yet), Wired connectivity and the 2G and 5G WIFI connectivity stops working.
Few seconds (almost immediately) after I unplug the ethernet cable going to the Cisco Phone, the Wired connectivity and 2G/5G WIFI connectivity comes back.
Common to all steps
==============================================================================
Network Information for Compartment 1 (ACTIVE)
==============================================================================
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : XYZ
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : XYZ.ABCcom
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : ***************************
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : fios-router.home
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Centrino(R) Advanced-N 6205
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : *********************
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : fios-router.home
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : ***********************
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
A. Connected Laptop and ObiHai VOIP Adaptor only
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.162(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:35:42 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:35:42 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
B. Connected Laptop and ObiHai VOIP Adaptor ; Plugged in the Ethernet Cable for Cisco IP Phone. Did Not Power on the Cisco IP Phone yet.
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.162(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:35:42 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:35:42 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
C. Connected Laptop and ObiHai VOIP Adaptor ; Plugged in the Ethernet Cable for Cisco IP Phone. Powered on the Cisco IP Phone and the immediate output.
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.162(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:35:42 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:35:42 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
D. Connected Laptop and ObiHai VOIP Adaptor ; Plugged in the Ethernet Cable for Cisco IP Phone. Powered on the Cisco IP Phone and the final output after the phone registered and was ready.
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.162(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:35:42 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:35:42 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
09-17-2016 06:27 AM
Any way on phone to check what its IP address is when plugged in?
09-18-2016 04:32 AM
Pondering two things ...
1. Wonder if the phone is somehow statically IP'd and conflicting with the router. With the phone powered off and disconnected, can you log into the router and change the local LAN configuration such that the router is assigned to another subnet and IP (for example, move router from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.2.200) -- note that I purposely changed both the subnet and the station octet. You will likely need to reboot everything (or DHCP release/renew to move to the new network once you do this). Once done, see if the phone behaves differently.
2. I had a very strange issue once with a PS/3 and an Aruba Wireless access point from my employer (search PS/3 and Arube Wireless wireless offline). Plugging in the adapter would knock the PS/3 offline (wired and wireless). Some kind of configuraiton conflict that certain firmware on the PS/3 didn't like. Wondering if this might be similar -- if so, you'd likely need someone to open a call with their Cisco TAC to investigate.
09-18-2016 08:03 AM
Hi
I checked on the Verizon Router Admin Page. Here is what it says.
IPv4 Address: Subnet Mask: Connection: Network Connection: Lease Type: Port Forwarding Services:
IPv4 Address : 192.168.1.12
Subnet Mask : 255.255.255.0
Connection : Ethernet
Network Connection : Bridge
Lease Type : Dynamic
Port Forwarding Services: None
On the Cisco Phone - When I go to Network Configuration menu, I see the following.
I want to reiterate something here. The network connectivity problems start the moment I connect the network cable (even if the phone is actually completely powered off). Why is the router so sensitive to the 3rd connection. When I have only 2 connections (Laptop and OBiHai), I have no issues.
Is that due to some hardware limitation on the router.
I see a spare WHITE port called WAN. Can I plug in my Cisco IP Phone into that port ?
09-18-2016 08:07 AM - edited 09-18-2016 08:37 AM
1. Wonder if the phone is somehow statically IP'd and conflicting with the router.
>> Please see my response to another member above. Is there a way to find out whether the IP is indeed Static. It is quite possible, because my employeer preconfigured the phone and gave it to me.
With the phone powered off and disconnected, can you log into the router and change the local LAN configuration such that the router is assigned to another subnet and IP (for example, move router from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.2.200) -- note that I purposely changed both the subnet and the station octet.
>> Can you please tell me how do I do this.
You will likely need to reboot everything (or DHCP release/renew to move to the new network once you do this). Once done, see if the phone behaves differently.
>> How do I do DHCP release/renew ?
My other Observation.
Once the Cisco IP Phone has been plugged in and powered on, I lose connectivity when it is switched off. But If I disconnect the ethernet cable, then I get the connectivity back. How does that work. When I disconnect something, does the router know to release some lock or something like it ?
For now, I am disconnecting the ethernet cable everytime I power off the Cisco Phone and it is a pain. I would love to get to the bottom of this mystery.