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Don't be mislead with verizon internet 75 Mbps/35Mbps subscription
kale127
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‎03-12-2013 03:40 PM

Verizon is providing a Modem with Coaxial Port Line access for 75 Mbps/ 35 Mps customer subscription which I think is not correct.  As a network professional, customers are not aware that the maximum bandwith for coaxial cable (DS3) can carry is 52 Mbps.  See the link for more info about bandwith capacity.  http://politeching.wordpress.com/2011/03/04/debunking_bandwidth-capacity-myth/  I believe Verizon is not being honest to subscribers,  Verizon should provided an equipment fhat meet or exceed uptoad and download subcribers requirements.

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Anti-Phish1
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‎03-12-2013 05:43 PM

You are misinformed.  FIOS does not use modems.  FIOS uses a MOCA capable router.  The PHY rate for a MOCA 1.1 connection is upto 277Mbps with effective MAC rate of 140Mbps.

http://www.mocalliance.org/marketing/specification/MoCA_Specification_for_Device_RF_Characteristics....

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gs0b
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‎03-12-2013 06:23 PM

You've found the speed limit for a single broadband cable channel, which is precisely what FiOS is not.

FiOS is BPON in most markets with GPON in some markets.  BPON is 622Mbps down / 155Mbps up.  GPON is 2.4Gbps down / 1.2Gbps up(*). 

Of course, this bandwidth is shared with other users, typically 16 but no more than 32.

The link from the ONT to the LAN is either Ethernet (100 Mbps in most cases) or MoCA.  As already described, MoCA is not the same as broadband cable.  It is much faster.

So, there is no problem getting speeds of 75Mbps or more from FiOS.  Precisely because it's not cable.

(*) http://www.dslreports.com/faq/16202

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prisaz
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‎05-04-2013 02:08 PM
@kale127 wrote:

Verizon is providing a Modem with Coaxial Port Line access for 75 Mbps/ 35 Mps customer subscription which I think is not correct.  As a network professional, customers are not aware that the maximum bandwith for coaxial cable (DS3) can carry is 52 Mbps.  See the link for more info about bandwith capacity.  http://politeching.wordpress.com/2011/03/04/debunking_bandwidth-capacity-myth/  I believe Verizon is not being honest to subscribers,  Verizon should provided an equipment fhat meet or exceed uptoad and download subcribers requirements.

Yes they do provide routers and not modems. If you don't like coax, have Ethernet enabled on your ONT, and run CAT6 from your fiber interface to your router. The MOCA connection would then only be required to update the channel information, and provide VOD and other features to your TV hardware. I have no bandwidth issues, and could get 300Mbps if I liked, and my wallet permitted.

Quantum 150/65. You can see the third party speed test indicates well over 65Mbps upload speeds. Get that from cable TV? No. Oh yea, one more thing I like, that part where it says faster than 99% of the US!

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Pushing the limits on Comcast cable test server in Texas.image

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prisaz
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‎05-04-2013 05:47 PM

Or if you want more information about GPON like I have with FiOS, you can read about Passive Optical Networks here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_optical_network

This is who makes the Optical Network Terminal that is mounted in my basement.

http://www3.alcatel-lucent.com/technology/gpon/

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